tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post1682912761350541128..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: May-June 1967 Grateful Dead Itinerary OverviewCorry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-71841566735177162602019-10-11T12:07:45.397-07:002019-10-11T12:07:45.397-07:00Lawrence Hammond of Mad River had a good story abo...Lawrence Hammond of Mad River had a good story about being helped by the Dead at what must be the 1967-06-21 Summer Solstice for a 1977 John Platt article in the old UK fanzine "Comstock Lode" No 2 p 16. It doesn't mention the Dead's performance but confirms that Mad River played on the opposing truck to Big Brother and is a tale worth retelling.<br /><br />Platt writes "The band hardly ever took speed, except on one memorable occasion just after Monterey. Mad River were due to play a gig in the park and on arrival Rock Scully met them and offered them some of of the Dead's equipment that they had ripped off at Monterey and had yet to return. Scully gave them a truck and a driver and told them to go and set up on the polo ground. The equipment was incredible, much better than Mad River's new equipment, each member had about three amps. Big Brother were playing on the other side of the ground and had attracted a large crowd, but undeterred Mad River set up and started to play. Someone had passed around cookies laced with speed and it hit just as they went on stage. Lawrence remembers thinking 'There's a difficult part coming up in the next song' and waiting all song for it to come up and then all of a sudden it had gone by. They had turned up their amps and just started to play - as they thought - normally, and everybody started to leave the other truck and drift over to theirs. They weren't into ego trips but they were delighted that these people wanted to listen to them rather than Big Brother. They later found out that unless you were standing 10 feet from Janis' toes you couldn't hear anything except Mad River."runonguinnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11089424718490613109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-39525093404322864812019-03-27T13:42:59.078-07:002019-03-27T13:42:59.078-07:00I'm continuing to research before June 28 and ...I'm continuing to research before June 28 and July 13 but I love this July 13 photo and article from the Vancouver Sun accenting Pigpen https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fzhjkcs0a1ujts/The_Vancouver_Sun_Thu__Jul_13__1967_.jpg?dl=0Grateful Secondshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866611234014012885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-17101829164229220132018-06-28T10:57:19.327-07:002018-06-28T10:57:19.327-07:00About 25 years ago, Gary Meyer who ran the famous ...About 25 years ago, Gary Meyer who ran the famous UC Theater in Berkeley on University Ave told me he promoted a Grateful Dead show once in Napa. It must have been the May 29, 1967 Napa show since he went to high school there.Grateful Secondshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16866611234014012885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-28918421308636427932016-01-26T15:55:17.830-08:002016-01-26T15:55:17.830-08:00A random odd find, from William Hjortsberg's &...A random odd find, from William Hjortsberg's "Jubilee Hitchhiker: the Life & Times of Richard Brautigan" - <br />"In mid-May 1967, Brautigan took part in a San Francisco State Writer's Conference, a three-day event at Camp Loma Mar in Pescadero, a small seaside town twenty miles north of Santa Cruz. Over fifty local writers had been invited to participate... After three days of sunshine, readings, workshops, and literary chit-chat, the conference ended with a 'Festival of Feeling' for which the Grateful Dead provided music." (p.308) <br /><br />I doubt the Dead played any such event, since I couldn't find any trace of it outside the brief mention in this book, and I suspect their appearance here can be ascribed to hearsay, misidentification, or invention. <br />Nonetheless, I thought I'd mention it for the record, as an example of a false Dead sighting.<br />The Dead & Quicksilver had played in Pescadero back in August 1966.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58610627792866509832013-02-15T02:50:22.189-08:002013-02-15T02:50:22.189-08:00In response to your note:
I find it surprising t...In response to your note: <br /><br />I find it surprising that the Grateful Dead had no paying gig at all this weekend, so I am looking for gigs on Friday and Saturday, May 26 and 27. We know they returned to San Francisco by Sunday afternoon (see below) so it can't have been too far away. <br /><br />There are cancelled shows. The original schedule for the Avalon Ballroom for May 26-28 had the Grateful Dead and Charlatans listed. Blue Cheer and Joe Tate's New Salvation Army Banned came in to replace them. Perhaps a lurking conspiracy theory about the influence of Bill Graham? I will mail some evidence to support this.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-60586021979132728112012-11-15T16:15:55.705-08:002012-11-15T16:15:55.705-08:00Good to hear from Paul, although I do not know if ...Good to hear from Paul, although I do not know if the mystery is actually solving because according to Jac Ttanna of The Sons Of Adam, the band last gig before break up was at the Hullabaloo as opening act of Moby Grape. Although Jac do not remember the exact date, he clearly remember that backstage he spoke with Moby Grape and the latter told him that they were very excited because they will play at the Monterey Pop Festival the next day. So, we know for sure that Moby Grape played at Monterey on Saturday, June 17, so I always thinking that the show with The Sons Of Adam at the Hullabaloo happened on Friday, June 16, exactly, but now this new info by Paul confusing me (?!). Maybe Moby Grape and Sons Of Adam filling in for the Dead and the latter moved to the Cheetah? or maybe Jac Ttanna remember wrong and his band and Moby Grape played a day or two before around June 14 or 15? Who knows!Bruno Ceriottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11902562334118804557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-55959841168542280272012-11-13T14:27:01.565-08:002012-11-13T14:27:01.565-08:00Paul--thank you so much for solving this mystery! ...Paul--thank you so much for solving this mystery! Numerous sources refer to the Dead having played LA prior to Monterey, because Phil's bass got stolen, and yet no one recalled where. Now you've solved it, with amazingly firm evidence (by 60s standards) as well.<br /><br />The Yellow Payges have alluded to opening for the Dead, but couldn't remember where, so this must be the show. <br /><br />The Hullabaloo became the Kaleidoscope, and then the Aquarius. It's a movie theater now.<br /><br />Is the internet great, or what?Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-2727203155414945402012-11-13T13:38:26.041-08:002012-11-13T13:38:26.041-08:00The June 16th show was at The Hullabaloo in Hollyw...The June 16th show was at The Hullabaloo in Hollywood. A radio ad for it is track 29 on "Psychedelic Promos & Radio Spots Vol 6" that the yahoogroup U-SPACES assembled years ago.<br />Here's the transcipt<br /><br />"They're here, in a Hullabaloo after hours exclusive the mightiest of all San Francisco groups, the Grateful Dead. Yes the fantastic Grateful Dead in their exclusive Hullabaloo debut this Friday for both the early show and the after hours. Plus Hullabuloo stars The Yellow Payges and with their new smash recording of "Children Ask", The Power. (brief clip "Children ask if he is dead...") Be there for the one and only LA appearance of the mighty Grateful Dead plus Hullabaloo stars The Yellow Payges and The Power. That's the Grateful Dead this Friday only, two big shows, 8pm at the Hullabaloo and 1am for the outasight Hullabaloo after hours. That's the Hullabaloo, Sunset and Vine in Hollywood."<br /><br />He sounds quite excited about it! As it was being advertised as "this Friday" I think we can be confident that there wasn't time for the venue to change.<br /><br />This was the show where Phil's Guild Starfire bass was stolen meaning he had to switch to a Fender for Monterey.<br /><br />Here's an interesting clip about the Hullabaloo<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpLw1uh2ac<br /><br />Also, "The Official Book of the Deadheads" has a listing for the Magic Mountain Music Festival, Mt Tamalpais Amphitheater, Marin County on the 15th before the Straight Theater that evening. As this event took place earlier in June (sources vary) while GD were in NYC they weren't there. But maybe they were originally booked to play but cancelled in favour of the Cafe Au Go Go run.<br /><br />Keep up the fine work, PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-36368281008104600782011-05-16T21:31:18.473-07:002011-05-16T21:31:18.473-07:00From RMGD a link to a scan of the May 18th tickets...From RMGD a link to a scan of the May 18th tickets http://tinyurl.com/67h4rsdbRadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13085278326695599904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-43278368074015474282010-10-09T18:03:41.438-07:002010-10-09T18:03:41.438-07:00To follow up on that, AMM was a key improv group i...To follow up on that, AMM was a key improv group in the UK, somewhat like avant-garde jazz, playing entirely freeform and using 'found sounds' & amplified electric noise. Naturally, they were very 'underground' & didn't hit the charts!<br />Though they're an important precedent for later experimental music, their most immediate influence was on Pink Floyd - Syd Barrett was quite enthralled with guitarist Keith Rowe's random prepared-guitar style, and used some of those techniques in early Floyd jams like Interstellar Overdrive & Astronomy Domine. (Barrett's slide scrapings and fondness for freeform noise, for instance, are very Rowe-esque; and when you hear stories of him detuning his guitar during performances, that's straight from AMM.)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-87873045380579633512010-10-09T12:23:45.428-07:002010-10-09T12:23:45.428-07:00AMM - a story to be told. Started I guess in 1965,...AMM - a story to be told. Started I guess in 1965, a British jazz, electronic, improvisation group that played some early shows at the UFO. There was an album AMMMusic on Elektra and they have kept going for many years.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-87792270282648140612010-10-09T07:34:14.342-07:002010-10-09T07:34:14.342-07:00Who were A.M.M?Who were A.M.M?Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-3312487446542691292010-10-09T07:21:55.305-07:002010-10-09T07:21:55.305-07:00A contemporary review (by Miles in IT#16) notes of...A contemporary review (by Miles in IT#16) notes of the June 12, 1967 performance at The Cheetah: "The Grateful Dead and the Group Image were at the Cheetah with an expensive light show. The Dead play like a more electronic version of Tomorrow, the Group Image are a mixture of the Soft Machine and A.M.M. — heavily experimental, heavily amplified. The light show is overdone and becomes tame. It seems to be preselected or programmed in some way though there seemed to be operators on the projectors."The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-64711126425203506842010-08-01T15:33:28.965-07:002010-08-01T15:33:28.965-07:00Well, since the Dead played Kings Beach Bowl on Au...Well, since the Dead played Kings Beach Bowl on August 25 and 26, 1967, I'm less inclined to believe they played there in June as well. That being said, the Tahoe scene was casual enough that it could have happened at the end of June.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-17167678267306997632010-08-01T13:44:35.128-07:002010-08-01T13:44:35.128-07:00On the Grateful Dead's happy birthday thread o...On the Grateful Dead's happy birthday thread on Facebook today, a fan mentions that his first show was "1st show...Warlocks at King's Beach Bowl, Lake Tahoe, June, '67." Obviously they weren't the Warlocks anymore, so who knows? Maybe a clue of sorts though.bRadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13085278326695599904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-21278923255269571512010-01-31T23:55:19.504-08:002010-01-31T23:55:19.504-08:00Note: I saw Group Image at the Hotel Diplomat in 1...Note: I saw Group Image at the Hotel Diplomat in 1968. 1st guy with a double neck guitar I ever saw.<br />PS..they certainly filmed Big Brother the first night but we had to wait until 2005 for Monterey Outtakes DVD to be released. Has 4 songs, including the aforementioned Piece of My Heart.<br />You will finally see the video to Combination of the Two, used audio only in the original film's (MONTEREY POP) title sequence.Crane-Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01381926325358440559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-72375203082046041482010-01-19T21:19:33.446-08:002010-01-19T21:19:33.446-08:00The list continues! Good work! Deadlists has so ma...The list continues! Good work! Deadlists has so many gaps here.... <br /><br />I don't have additional dates to offer, just some random comments: <br /><br />5/5/67 - You mention Golden Road being in the charts; our tape dated "5/5/67" obligingly has a Golden Road, but I believe this tape is actually from an Aug/Sept '67 show. <br />(It was funny to see Ralph Gleason, in his notice of the Dead's Rock Garden shows a month earlier, call this single "Golden Miles"....) <br /><br />5/28/67 - That diary entry is interesting, but I'm a bit skeptical since it's been touched-up after the fact. The writer mentions listening to the Sgt Pepper album in the days prior to 5/28, though it wasn't released until June 1 - could be possible, though. And if he did see the Dead at the Panhandle around this time, certainly it wasn't after June 1! (I was also struck that he called it the "Human Be-In". Is this likely? Was there a "Human Be-In" every Sunday at the Panhandle?) <br /><br />6/17-18/67 - I'm sure I've seen accounts of Hendrix jamming with Garcia 'offstage' at Monterey, or even at the free stage - not so sure they're true. I said in a Hendrix post: <br />"Though Hendrix spent hours after the shows backstage jamming with others like John Cippollina, Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady, the stories differ, and though some claim he played with Garcia, it seems he never did." <br /><br />Rock Scully noted, "I helped arrange impromptu jam sessions at the free campground we organized at Monterey College. We set up a stage and, after the shows, the various bands would put on jam sessions. Jimi Hendrix, Eric Burdon, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, the Airplane... We all took acid together and played all night." <br />Hendrix definitely played with Quicksilver Messenger Service members, at the least - as Gary Duncan said, "We played for two or three hours. That was fun. Someone should have gotten that on tape." <br /><br />JULY - <br />Although it falls after your cutoff here, and perhaps belongs in your next update, I have to wonder about that two-week 'blank spot' in show dates before the Northwest mini-tour in mid-July. What were they up to? <br /><br />And a note about the Santa Clara Continental Ballroom - the Dead returned there on July 21-22. An audience member had the remarkable foresight to write a setlist: <br />"My set list notes: Set one: 1. Viola Lee Blues (30:00) 2. Morning Dew (5:00). Set two: 1. The Golden Road (3:00) 2. (Pigpen song) (13:00) 3. New, New Minglewood Blues (4:00) 4. (????) (14:00) 5. He Won (?) (8:00) 6. Midnight Hour (15:00). All times are approximate since I was just looking at my watch. I had the first album, so I'm sure songs 2, 4 and 5 were not on it." <br />Very interesting glimpse at a typical mid-'67 Dead show - note how long the Viola Lee is! (In the second set, the unknown songs are not likely to be well-known covers, so I believe that song 2 is likely Same Thing, song 5 probably He Was a Friend of Mine, and song 4 possibly Alligator, but that's just guessing.)<br /><br />And of course, July 23 has that most remarkable of events, a 1967 Dead tape....albeit a very short one, behind a Casady rap. Possibly something like this might've gone down at the 6/15 Straight Theater party? Seems like a strong Acid-Test vibe. Have to wonder if Hank Harrison or someone has more of this short recording....Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-20501823461835023422010-01-19T00:44:05.112-08:002010-01-19T00:44:05.112-08:00I have corrected www.chickenonaunicycle.com in res...I have corrected www.chickenonaunicycle.com in respect of the 1967 listing - it appeared for 1968 as well. I probably need to put some effort in to the Carousel - it is just one of those things that the larger and better known venues seem to get much less attention.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-64515835095930272652010-01-18T21:25:40.846-08:002010-01-18T21:25:40.846-08:00I think Monterey Peninsula College is distinct, an...I think Monterey Peninsula College is distinct, and correct in this instance.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-37365239804190586132010-01-18T20:12:33.770-08:002010-01-18T20:12:33.770-08:00GD/Richie Havens at the Carousel is June 19, 1968-...GD/Richie Havens at the Carousel is June 19, 1968--our bad.<br /><br />Monterey Peninsula and Cypress are the same place--or at least I did some research at one point that suggested they were. In any case, we are talking about the same place, the question is what it was named at the time.<br /><br />6/12/67 opener is Group Image, which Rock Scully called a "2nd Avenue Tribe."Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-5594174126128574802010-01-18T20:00:35.025-08:002010-01-18T20:00:35.025-08:00Great post, as always. A few observations/question...Great post, as always. A few observations/questions.<br /><br />6/12/67: is the other act Blues Image or Group Image?<br /><br />6/17-18/67: I was under the impression that the community college in question was Monterey Peninsula College, but you show Cypress Community College.<br /><br />6/19/67: some place called Chicken on a Unicycle <a href="http://www.chickenonaunicycle.com/Carousel%20Shows.htm" rel="nofollow">lists</a> the GD and Richie Havens at the Carousel.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.com