tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post2527118771735875428..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: Grateful Dead Live FM Broadcasts-KSAN Re-broadcasts (FM Broadcasts II)Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-11112771690961845682024-02-20T13:23:28.926-08:002024-02-20T13:23:28.926-08:00There is one tape of What Was That on Archive sear...There is one tape of What Was That on Archive search KSAN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-38001315313383604362024-01-01T18:58:55.578-08:002024-01-01T18:58:55.578-08:00i have 3 x 90 cassettes of "bill graham speci...i have 3 x 90 cassettes of "bill graham special" 1973. no dialog, only music.righthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01886326525340824995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-22945103323793963672020-04-09T09:39:36.453-07:002020-04-09T09:39:36.453-07:00Six reels of "What Was That?" apparently...Six reels of "What Was That?" apparently survive in the Oakland Museum of California, per a listing in worldcat.org:<br /><br />https://www.worldcat.org/title/what-was-that-on-ksan-live-radio-recorded-and-broadcasted-on-january-31-1976-and-rebroadcasted-on-may-21-1978/oclc/430390038DavidFerrellJacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12783534105008693048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-91482215601862151472020-04-09T09:36:55.833-07:002020-04-09T09:36:55.833-07:00We've found at least one hour of "What Wa...We've found at least one hour of "What Was That?" in the Bay Area Radio Museum archives, and may have more.<br /><br />I'll post it at bayarearadio.org<br /> <br /><br />D.J.DavidFerrellJacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12783534105008693048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-88764328947142311462019-01-23T19:16:19.641-08:002019-01-23T19:16:19.641-08:00LIA, thanks so much for this research. Actually, g...LIA, thanks so much for this research. Actually, given the time gap, my memory wasn't that bad!<br /><br />I clearly recall that the emphasis wasn't exclusively on SF bands. I can remember sitting on the front porch, listening to my tinny FM radio while the original Jeff Beck Group tore through some (now widely circulated) songs like "Let Me Love You" and "Jeff's Boogie."<br /><br />I also recall that many of the big acts in 1972 that would have received some attention wouldn't be that memorable now: Leon Russell, Johnny Winter and so forth.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-22406598843020593332019-01-23T18:29:56.969-08:002019-01-23T18:29:56.969-08:00Record World also reported on 11/11/72: “Bill Grah...Record World also reported on 11/11/72: “Bill Graham was on the air in San Francisco last week doing a marathon radio special titled ‘The Fillmore Years,’ which spent one hour on each and every weekend bill at the Fillmore. The show covered six years, and featured Graham’s personal tapes of the performances, as well as his own comments.” <br /><br />There are some differences between the newspaper accounts and Corry's memories: <br />- Graham's 3-day stay was announced ahead of time; there was even a schedule (though I don't know if he stuck to it).<br />- Listeners were not only expected but encouraged to tape the shows.<br />- There were interviews (some pre-taped) not only with Graham but with other musical commentators as well. <br />- It appears Graham often played records instead of live tapes (the Examiner complained that there weren't more tapes played). <br />- Even in 60 hours Graham couldn't have covered every weekend at the Fillmore! (Though all the repeat bands would've made the job simpler.) But if the plan was "one hour per weekend," then it's little wonder each band got only 2 or 3 songs. I don't have a listing of what was played, but Graham evidently didn't focus on San Francisco bands, so the fan-made KSAN compilations of various local groups are somewhat misleading. (The advance listings promised tapes of famous dead or defunct artists.)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-83076843381761049702019-01-23T17:40:00.008-08:002019-01-23T17:40:00.008-08:00Graham's appearance on KSAN, October 27-30 197...Graham's appearance on KSAN, October 27-30 1972, was listed in newspaper radio schedules and well-publicized ahead of time. "'A Three Day Trip Back to the Good Old Days' is hosted by rock producer Bill Graham, who recreates some of his favorite San Francisco rock shows through records, interviews, and unreleased tapes from the Fillmore archives." <br />Here are some reports on the broadcast from the SF Examiner. <br /><br />10/22/72: "From 6 pm Friday through 6 am Monday, October 30, KSAN will devote every last non-commercial minute to "A Three-Day Trip Back to the Good Old Days" in the person of Bill Graham and never-before-heard tapes of Fillmore shows - November 6, 1965 to July 4, 1971. Get your own tape machines hooked up to your tuner and wail. The tapes will include performances by Jimi Hendrix, Big Brother and the Holding Company (with Janis), Lenny Bruce, Aretha Franklin, Cream, and Otis Redding. <br />In addition, the self-effacing Graham himself has been prevailed upon to utter a few words, as has a large group of his contemporaries. A full, hour-by-hour schedule for the whole weekend is available from KSAN, 211 Sutter Street, but you MUST include a stamped, self-addressed envelope." <br />(John Wasserman, "The Shifts in the Waves") <br /><br />10/25/72: "Bill Graham taped performances by Otis Redding, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and others; performances that have never been heard beyond Fillmore walls. He stuck the tape in boxes, the bad tape and the great tape. He is going to unreel miles of it on "A Three Day Trip Back to the Good Old Days" this weekend, Friday 6 pm to Monday 6 am on Radio KSAN-FM. <br />Graham will move into the studio for the duration to present the music, conduct interviews, handle the phones, and play pre-taped commentaries by dozens of good old days enthusiasts including Ray Charles, Tower of Power, the ever hot Cold Blood, and critic Phil Elwood." <br />(Dwight Newton, "3-Day Trip to Way Back") <br /><br />11/5/72: "Final report on the Bill Graham-Fillmore weekend at KSAN: <br />Graham stayed up for the entire 60 hours...and then got only 6 hours sleep on Monday. Sans pills. Monday night he took most of the KSAN staff out to dinner... [Graham also took phone calls.]<br />It was an extraordinary weekend... Graham, faced with the instant truth of live radio, has never been more candid about his life and work. The interviews - both live and taped - were hugely informative, and the music - especially the tapes from live performances - effectively covered an era. The only disappointment was that there were not more live tapes and fewer records. That will certainly not prevent KSAN from winning awards for this unique documentary of cultural history." <br />(John Wasserman, "Graham's 66 Hours Behind the Mike")<br /><br />During the same week, KSAN and KSFO were also holding other oldies specials - KSAN had a 24-hour "Radio Oldies Day" of '50s/60s rock presented by the original DJs, and KSFO had a 12-hour special on "The '40s." <br />Wasserman called the week "an orgy of nostalgia...I cannot think of a time when so much fine material has been available on radio."Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-50424983139010018152013-03-07T16:04:56.587-08:002013-03-07T16:04:56.587-08:00KSAN What Was That date on poster is January 31, F...KSAN What Was That date on poster is January 31, February 1.Jerry's Brokendown Palaceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06451361448230329754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58002031403108550772013-03-02T15:45:12.874-08:002013-03-02T15:45:12.874-08:00Thanks to a correspondent, I know that the date of...Thanks to a correspondent, I know that the date of the KSAN Fillmore weekend was October 27-29, 1972.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-56042182525978402382011-08-04T00:57:20.870-07:002011-08-04T00:57:20.870-07:00You could always email Bob and ask him about the t...You could always email Bob and ask him about the tapes. I know he still has posters maybe he has the tapes too;-)Argus Collingwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14401723233423504075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-56615719888968595402011-03-12T11:34:56.019-08:002011-03-12T11:34:56.019-08:00Corry, thank you for preserving this episode for p...Corry, thank you for preserving this episode for posterity. It really seems like this was almost lost to memory.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-80204219214995039942011-03-06T09:11:18.369-08:002011-03-06T09:11:18.369-08:00Bob Cohen's tape archive is a true mystery. Th...Bob Cohen's tape archive is a true mystery. The only person who seems to be granted access, to my knowledge, is Alec Palao. Palao has put together many fine albums for various labels (like Ace and Sundazed), and even one from a Cohen tape--The Oxford Circle Live At The Avalon 1966 (Big Beat).<br /><br />The excellent San Francisco Museum exhibit on San Francisco 60s music, curated by Palao, also featured a special event where Cohen played unreleased tapes. <br /><br />My own theory is that Cohen's archive is relatively small, but spectacularly good. I hope we eventually get to find out.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-34703790344187806232011-03-05T20:44:51.548-08:002011-03-05T20:44:51.548-08:00I wonder how many Avalon tapes Bob Cohen actually ...I wonder how many Avalon tapes Bob Cohen actually still has? <br /><br />He was partly behind the Vintage Dead/Historic Dead albums released in '71. As Nick Meriwether notes: <br />"Originally part of a project that was to release live albums from a host of the San Francisco bands, the Dead's albums were all that was salvaged. ...Cohen was hired to engineer and master the tapes, and completed work on not only the Dead's tracks but a number of others as well, including some from the Charlatans and the Airplane. <br />The original project fell through, and when the studio where Cohen had done the mastering was not paid, they held the master as collateral. ...MGM bought the tapes and...blithely announced their impending release over Cohen's protests. [The Dead also disputed that they'd authorized the albums' release.] <br />When Cohen found out that MGM planned to release other tapes from the original project without the bands' permissions, he took matters into his own hands and erased the tapes. <br />...Cohen now refers to the entire debacle as 'that ill-fated nightmare.'"<br /><br />I would point out that all our '68/69 Avalon recordings seem to come from Bear's tapes (except perhaps the mysterious 8/28/68) - and almost all the Dead's 1966 Avalon shows have vanished.<br />Possibly Cohen's sitting on a treasure trove? Possibly not. He's mentioned one argument he had with Dan Healy about taping the band: <br />"Healy said, 'Don't record them.' ...Two minutes before they're about to go on, he comes running up and says, 'OK, record them.' So I got it recorded...and then after the show he comes up and says, 'OK, gimme my tape.' I said, 'What? This is my tape...' So we get in this big argument [while] I'm playing the tape back... He picked up the tape, cut it in half, and walked off with half. I've got the front half...I'd love to find out if the other half still exists."<br /><br />(BTW, the "What Was That" poster dates look like Jan 31-Feb 1....the Winter of Love, perhaps?)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-50479625937258008842011-03-05T18:55:04.166-08:002011-03-05T18:55:04.166-08:00"Few Grateful Dead scholars seem aware...&quo..."Few Grateful Dead scholars seem aware..." <br />How many GD scholars are there, anyway?!<br /><br />Good to hear the stories of these broadcasts I'd never heard about before. So that's where those KSAN clips & compilations originated! <br /><br />Grateful Dead tape history (and the tape-history of most other '60s bands as well) tends to be self-erasing - people are of course more interested in 'the show itself' than its transmission through the years, so as the master sources come out, the older tapes die off, never make the jump to digital & disappear. <br />Rightfully so, but it makes it hard (without talking to old tapers) to find out just when shows first emerged. <br />People listening to, for instance, the 5/1/70 Alfred show today mostly wouldn't know that just part of it circulated in the early days (as "St Louis 5/19/70"), part of it didn't come out until the '90s, and the last missing piece was unknown until just the last few years. <br />The Taping Compendium does talk about this sort of thing, but pays almost no attention to early broadcasts by KSAN or other stations...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com