tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post335996930324633994..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: April 4, 1976 Page Auditorium, Duke University, Durham, NC: Jerry Garcia BandCorry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-27641058484605220752021-08-24T13:52:59.435-07:002021-08-24T13:52:59.435-07:00It exists, but it lives under the rules that gover...It exists, but it lives under the rules that govern most archives, viz, that they can't permit wide diffusion of others' intellectual property. But if you contact the Duke Special Collections / Archives, you may be able to make some headway.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-76225702485536774462021-08-24T08:32:48.230-07:002021-08-24T08:32:48.230-07:00Wow.... Stumbled on to this website searching for ...Wow.... Stumbled on to this website searching for the concert I attended way back in Page Auditorium in the mid 1970s that featured Jerry Garcia. This opened up a lot of memories! Attended the second show that started well after midnight since the first was sold out. A carful of us drove over from Raleigh in my vintage 1950 Chevy hot rod to attend. By the time the show started we were all high just from breathing in that place! It was my intro to Jerry Garcia playing. Still remember the act that opened. It was just plain weird! I would love to be able to see some of the video mentioned. Is it available now?David Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09139079203793149034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-55101700754558834212021-01-03T18:20:19.635-08:002021-01-03T18:20:19.635-08:00Checking in to this post years later to say I have...Checking in to this post years later to say I have it on good authority that 4/4/76 has been digitized. Corry, it might be time to put in another request with the Dukies to see if an on-site viewing might be possible?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-44301960395392790092016-02-05T12:05:46.044-08:002016-02-05T12:05:46.044-08:00Steve, thanks for the detail about the second show...Steve, thanks for the detail about the second show. It makes a lot of sense, making sure the first show sold out before adding the late one.<br /><br />As to the video, some people (including Dr Bob, who Commented above) apparently actually paid to get the JGB Ap4 4 76 video converted, some time in the early 2000s, and it was unrecoverable. The format was not at all standard, apparently, and the technical issues weren't resolvable.<br /><br />If you look through the Duke archives, you can see all sorts of interesting video tapes (Poco, etc) but I think none can be recaptured.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-69282905158899910332016-02-05T11:51:38.580-08:002016-02-05T11:51:38.580-08:00I was at both Page auditorium shows. They were my...I was at both Page auditorium shows. They were my first experience with seeing Garcia live and made me a life long fan. At first only one show was put on but they announced a second one at the last minute. Also was at Cameron '78 and we all had copies of the tape as soon as it came out.. We all wore ours out but the master was very well preserved. Would like to help retrieve the film if you crowdsource it please post. Steve C.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11952143964346840424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-2085728935324529962016-01-05T10:18:01.996-08:002016-01-05T10:18:01.996-08:00Somehow I wrote a post about 4/4/76 without rememb...Somehow I wrote a post about 4/4/76 without remembering this post. Some system I have for keeping track of things!<br /><br /><a href="http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2016/01/jgb-4476-page-auditorium.html" rel="nofollow">http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2016/01/jgb-4476-page-auditorium.html</a>Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-75112162721536450912015-08-01T07:09:39.059-07:002015-08-01T07:09:39.059-07:00Rich how ya doing buddy. Michael O here. do you ...Rich how ya doing buddy. Michael O here. do you have a pdf of your review? i'd love to read it. i was at 9/23/76 and 4/12/78 but never knew JG played Page that April. or if I knew then i've forgotten now. my email is michaelofoghludha@gmail.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18258553259514089745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-76991929686033975352014-03-13T10:03:43.532-07:002014-03-13T10:03:43.532-07:00Awesome! No, I didn't know that Uncle Vinty op...Awesome! No, I didn't know that Uncle Vinty opened. That is strange.<br /><br />I am sure I speak for the blog owner when I say we'd love more recollections. Your review is very well written. I have a pdf of it if you'd like, email me, I think email is linked to my name.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-77982252599548485922014-03-12T16:38:45.978-07:002014-03-12T16:38:45.978-07:00I wrote that review in Carolina. Did I mention th...I wrote that review in Carolina. Did I mention that Uncle Vinty opened? Very weird!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00085611972169708023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-39136879363189400872011-03-28T18:27:18.977-07:002011-03-28T18:27:18.977-07:00Wow, a new Dead film from '73 surfaces and van...Wow, a new Dead film from '73 surfaces and vanishes, almost in the same breath. <br />I'd like to know more about what Dead reps snatched the film, when they did it, and what legal reasons they offered. <br />A four-song video would not seem to be much of a bootleg threat! But I recall the Dead were opposed to videos long after relenting to audio-tapers...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-37280265158272857962011-03-28T06:18:48.050-07:002011-03-28T06:18:48.050-07:00The master reels of "One More Saturday Night&...The master reels of "One More Saturday Night" were confiscated from the filmmaker after threats of legal action...at least that's what the filmmaker has told me on several occasions.deliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093045684102187492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8737715639272031742011-03-27T20:48:24.265-07:002011-03-27T20:48:24.265-07:00My recollection is that the Page shows sold out wi...My recollection is that the Page shows sold out with little, if any, advertisement. I bought my ticket at the UNC Student Union and only went to the late show as the early was already sold out. The crowd seemed to be almost entirely Duke Students.<br /><br />It broke a long drought for me. The last time I'd seen Jerry play was on 8/6/74.drbob22https://www.blogger.com/profile/18195675836047045396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-81885718210917361282011-03-27T20:39:23.809-07:002011-03-27T20:39:23.809-07:00"Another Sat Night" in the Duke Archive ..."Another Sat Night" in the Duke Archive is not the film made of 12/8/73. That film, which is titled "One More Sat Night", is still in the possession of the original owner. It consists of only BEW, Big River, and China->Rider. The owner might put it out soon.<br /><br />Bob Wagnerdrbob22https://www.blogger.com/profile/18195675836047045396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-21367423372225375632011-03-26T16:15:10.604-07:002011-03-26T16:15:10.604-07:00There is a review of the 4/4/76 JGB show, with a c...There is a review of the 4/4/76 JGB show, with a couple of very cool photos:<br /><br />McManus, Richard. 1976. Garcia: arcs, cascades. <i>Carolina</i>, April 8, 1976, p. 5.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-46266339103224138252011-03-26T15:17:45.778-07:002011-03-26T15:17:45.778-07:00The Cable 13 station was only created in 1976; and...The Cable 13 station was only created in 1976; and looking through the videos, I think there's nothing from before that year.<br /><br />Even assuming it may have been a donation, it would have been first obtained by Cable 13 as it was in their collection.<br /><br />I think it's very unlikely it's a show from '73. My feeling it's something more along the lines of "Anything Goes," "Galloping Guzzler," "Pig Roasts," etc.<br /><br />Would love to be proven wrong, and hope to hear more details from that friend in Durham...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-1821086985393865862011-03-26T12:19:36.796-07:002011-03-26T12:19:36.796-07:00Bob, that's a very interesting piece of inform...Bob, that's a very interesting piece of information. I had seen that "Another Saturday Night" listed, and wondered what it was. Was the film "pro shot" or amateur, do you have any idea?<br /><br />Maybe now that Arizona took down Duke, the University alumni can focus on their archives. Do you recall if the JGB 4-4-76 shows were student events, or if they were publicly advertised? Did they sell out?Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-53020918361679653412011-03-26T11:17:32.830-07:002011-03-26T11:17:32.830-07:00Box 8
Vol. 97
Another Saturday Night, undated.
3...Box 8<br />Vol. 97<br />Another Saturday Night, undated. <br />3 videocassettes (U-matic).<br /><br />I am nearly certain that this is a video of the 12/8/73 GD @ Cameron Indoor Stadium. I know that a film was made, not by Duke but independently, that has not circulated. A friend of mine who still lives in Durham knew the filmmakers and saw some of it long ago. Perhaps it was donated to the Duke Library?<br /><br />Having been a student at UNC '72-'82 I was fortunate enough to attend 12/8/73, 4/4/76, 9/23/76, 4/12/78, and 4/2/82.<br /><br />Bob WagnerUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08296797286274689640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-41120786794514289012011-02-25T03:47:12.047-08:002011-02-25T03:47:12.047-08:00I put up a brief post, just listing the broadcasts...I put up a brief post, just listing the broadcasts for reference; hopefully it won't duplicate what you planned on writing.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-89255076031232582202011-02-24T07:04:57.533-08:002011-02-24T07:04:57.533-08:00LIA, you have changed my mind and I have gotten ex...LIA, you have changed my mind and I have gotten extremely interested in this. I am definitely going to do a post about FM broadcasts in the 70s, sort of based on our exchange in this Comment thread. <br /><br />I am always interested in whatever you post, but now you've gotten me intrigued, so don't let me badger you into making a post just for me.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-6816809375075150802011-02-24T04:39:54.372-08:002011-02-24T04:39:54.372-08:00Would the 'closing of Fillmore West' radio...Would the 'closing of Fillmore West' radio shows on 7/2/71 have been paid for by Bill Graham? I also wonder about 10/4/70 as that was a multi-FM&TV-station broadcast of multiple bands on different labels...<br /><br />Both McNally & Jackson say that 2/14/68 was broadcast live on both KMPX and KPFA (calling it "the first-ever live FM stereo broadcast"). Deadlists says the broadcast was just the second set & Country Joe's set, and notes the KMPX DJ talking at the end of the radio broadcast. <br />The occasion for the broadcast was apparently the "official" opening of the Carousel.<br /><br />A post on Dead FM broadcasts would not be that interesting for me, but I'll try to whip up something... Sometimes it's hard to tell just *when* a show was actually broadcast... Like, 11/19/66 is on a recent KSAN compilation claiming it was "partially broadcast", but I can't verify that. 5/6/70 was recorded by the MIT radio station but I don't know if it was broadcast. <br />Then there's the 'alternate history' of intrepid DJs independently broadcasting shows on their own like 10/12/68, 5/2/70, 5/15/70 etc...this apparently started in 1971 as the first SBDs started getting out. That's a whole separate stream of "Dead on the radio" that some other historian might address someday...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-63019669399684089662011-02-23T11:41:11.565-08:002011-02-23T11:41:11.565-08:00With regard to GD radio broadcasts, all 70s and 80...With regard to GD radio broadcasts, all 70s and 80s broadcasts on commercial stations had someone--usually the record company--subsidizing the lost ad time. When the Dead broadcast a New Years Eve show on KSAN in the mid-70s, some entity was paying several thousand dollars to make up for the lost out time. There usually weren't commercials and there wasn't a named "sponsor", but Warner Brothers or someone paid.<br /><br />When the Dead had a big run of FM broadcasts in the Fall of 71, it was because Warners paid a radio station in each city for the lost ad time (Columbia would have done the same for the Riders). In Summer '76 the Dead did the same thing, subsidizing the ad time on stations for the broadcasts. New Years Eve in San Francisco was no exception. New Years '77 was not broadcast on KSAN because Arista wasn't going to pay for it (I think Santana or someone was on the air that night). <br /><br />In some cases, Warners may have made some sort of deal--like agreeing to buy a certain number of ads in the next 60 days in return for an evening's GD broadcast--but money still changed hands with commercial stations. The college and non-profit stations had different arrangements and motives.<br /><br />I do know about KZSU and KALX broadcasts, but the circumstances weren't always identical. By the 1980s, the college stations were broadcasting as much for crowd control at the Greek and Frost as anything else, although they were often part of fundraisers.<br /><br />KPFA is yet another circumstance, but they too are non-profit, so the 69 Avalon broadcast was financed some other way. KMPX on 2/14/68 was a commercial station, but I don't know the economics underlying it. I can't believe, however, that there wasn't at least an implied financial transaction when the station gave up much of the night to broadcasting. Was 2/14/68 actually broadcast over the air as it happened? I'm not convinced of that yet.<br /><br />This is an interesting topic, and if you had a post on it (hint!) I would have a lot of comments.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-19524684031123804142011-02-22T18:53:26.245-08:002011-02-22T18:53:26.245-08:00Re: FM broadcasts, I hadn't known about ad tim...Re: FM broadcasts, I hadn't known about ad time. I assume the early San Francisco FM broadcasts & the various New Year's shows were exempt from that policy?<br /><br />I tried putting together a list of all the Dead's early FM broadcasts a while ago - which was actually quite tricky, since many shows were broadcast from collectors' tapes years later: <br />http://www.archive.org/post/264324/dead-fm-broadcasts <br /><br />Re: Bill Graham's Winterland videos, here's an example from 12/31/77 Winterland: <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTttsdP5mJM <br />Have to wonder how many more of Graham's videos survive...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-36276216118892102712011-02-21T18:52:55.022-08:002011-02-21T18:52:55.022-08:00Based on what we have learned in the last two week...Based on what we have learned in the last two weeks, I think that what happened at Duke on 4/12/78 was that the Cameron show was videotaped by the Channel 13 staff as part of the live video feed, but it was not broadcast on the station. Bill Graham had been using B&W video at Winterland since about 1975, so the technology was not unknown.<br /><br />I have to think (hope) that the JGB 76 show was video'd and broadcast, and thus preserved, whereas the Dead videos were part of the live performance.<br /><br />FM broadcasts had a different math. The record company had to purchase all the advertising for the radio station for the evening. In Fall '71 Warners was pushing the Dead hard, and CBS was pushing the Riders, so the whole show was broadcast. In 1976, GD Records was trying to generate interest, and bought out the ad time on radio stations to create the broadcasts. <br /><br />However, in 1972-74 there wasn't any record company cash to buy broadcast time, so there were few FM broadcasts (NYE excepted).Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-39642240610085935262011-02-21T18:40:54.714-08:002011-02-21T18:40:54.714-08:00Thanks, heshelman - good to hear from someone '...Thanks, heshelman - good to hear from someone 'in the know'!<br />I'd guess there's more old Cable 13 stuff surviving than is in that limited library collection. But it often happens when recovering old TV programs, just a few were randomly preserved through the ravages of time, while the bulk gets lost... (Well, the same's true of movies & radio shows in general, though most people don't look back that far.)<br /><br />Not surprised to hear that there was "an issue with the Dead coming back to the school", given how school authorities generally viewed the Dead... But it did surprise me that the 4/12/78 show was filmed at all, since the Dead seem to have had a no-filming policy in general. They must have been asked all the time, wouldn't you think? (The Capitol Theatre vids seem to be the exception from that period, and those were done by the theater.)<br />Their FM broadcast policy was also very selective - some tours (like fall '71 or June '76) they'd let each city get a broadcast; but most the time, radio listeners were out of luck.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-65638584617438356502011-02-21T12:25:53.665-08:002011-02-21T12:25:53.665-08:00heshelman, thanks for the on-the-scene perspective...heshelman, thanks for the on-the-scene perspective. It certainly seems that the Dead's efforts to keep playing North Carolina paid off with a loyal fan base. <br /><br />I have a feeling that the preserved archives of Cable 13 are somewhat random. There were only 5 rock shows (none Kenny Loggins) spread out over six years. Its also interesting to hear that the Dead did not approve of the broadcast of their Cameron shows, and those are not in the Archive. That leads me to think that the Garcia show was actually broadcast, however few may have been watching it.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.com