tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post3368985489999374599..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: Grateful Dead Tour Itinerary December 1969Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-66814741649557656662022-08-04T22:04:47.027-07:002022-08-04T22:04:47.027-07:00Re: 12/26/69 SMU - thanks to a photo of the tape l...Re: 12/26/69 SMU - thanks to a photo of the tape label in Dave's Pick, we know that Owsley taped Zephyr's opening set as well, with a note: "good chick singers."Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-57523128453783862182020-10-05T13:10:10.001-07:002020-10-05T13:10:10.001-07:00Looking at it both in Street View and the pics fro...Looking at it both in Street View and the pics from the 30s and 40s at https://jhgraham.com/2016/06/27/8917-sunset-blvd/, I don't see how this was a music venue at all. Even if the stage was at the back of a long room, I'm not sure very many people could fit. JasWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002044015543468171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-47325876098654248052018-06-19T13:12:09.748-07:002018-06-19T13:12:09.748-07:00Just a correction about the address/location of th...Just a correction about the address/location of the Miami-Hollywood Speedway at which Miami Rock Festival show took place in December '69. The approximate address is actually 16661 Pines Blvd., Pembroke Pines, FL. It's now the site of human-made wetlands surrounding a subdevelopment and just east of a fire station. The exact (current) address of where the adjacent Sportatorium was located is 17171 Pines Blvd. It is now the site of a Sedano's Supermarket, which has almost the same footprint (albeit slightly smaller) as the Sportatorium. JasWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002044015543468171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-51861753052377538402018-03-26T11:07:03.937-07:002018-03-26T11:07:03.937-07:00The galaxy was at the exact same address. I have a...The galaxy was at the exact same address. I have a photo with the address above the door.Jerry's Brokendown Palaceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06451361448230329754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-90581943515400505092016-07-24T08:38:27.992-07:002016-07-24T08:38:27.992-07:00Michael Lang had nothing to do with the December 1...Michael Lang had nothing to do with the December 1968 Miami Pop Festival. The Miami festival he organized was held in May of that year.Bill Mankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023534572332872670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-49390942628590637442016-07-24T08:37:57.481-07:002016-07-24T08:37:57.481-07:00Michael Lang had nothing to do with the December 1...Michael Lang had nothing to do with the December 1968 Miami Pop Festival. The Miami festival he organized was held in May of that year.Bill Mankinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023534572332872670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-88529795641712667782014-12-11T17:58:17.125-08:002014-12-11T17:58:17.125-08:00Hi everyone. Once again thanks for all the hard wo...Hi everyone. Once again thanks for all the hard work. I love this blog. I've read in separate interviews Heartbreakers Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench speak of first seeing the Dead at Miami Pop. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13117841759625189570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8774878972426849612013-09-29T18:34:36.740-07:002013-09-29T18:34:36.740-07:00Eric, thanks for this link, The ad art is differen...Eric, thanks for this link, The ad art is different than the poster I linked above, and it confirms the Zephyr connection.<br /><br />Concerts West (and Concerts East) was Jerry Weintraub's operation, who booked Led Zeppelin, Elvis Presley and many others.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-54372008861972424262013-09-29T18:25:39.062-07:002013-09-29T18:25:39.062-07:00Local newspaper ad for 12-26-69
http://www.lonesta...Local newspaper ad for 12-26-69<br />http://www.lonestardeadradio.com/ploggerb2.1/index.php?level=picture&id=361erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18080237165302231537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58938131021919924012013-06-20T20:28:23.725-07:002013-06-20T20:28:23.725-07:00I agree the Stones didn't consult the Dead abo...I agree the Stones didn't consult the Dead about much of anything! But I can't see the Stones ever agreeing to have the Dead play after them. The accounts I've seen say that the Dead were to play just before the Stones; when they bailed, it left a long wait before the Stones felt ready to come on. <br /><br />Then there's the issue that Bill Graham may have expected the Dead to get to the Fillmore after their Altamont appearance. (Theoretically, they could've finished by evening.) He wouldn't be too happy about their canceling a Fillmore gig to play a free show somewhere - nor would the opening bands be happy about canceling either! Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-12890752038534369082013-06-20T18:14:42.234-07:002013-06-20T18:14:42.234-07:00Well, your correction is basically accurate, as I ...Well, your correction is basically accurate, as I grossly oversimplified the details. I believe the original plan for Altamont was that the Stones would close the show. This was changed on the fly, with the assumption that the Dead would mellow everyone out by jamming far into the night. Since the Dead were still in San Francisco, I don't think they were really consulted about it.<br /><br />As to the Fillmore West show, the Dead refused to play, so from that perspective the show (ie the Dead performance) was canceled. I did not consider that the doors might have been opened and the other bands might have played. I do know someone working on this angle, and hopefully she will pursue the members of Humble Pie and The Flock and tell us more.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-31482627108751792972013-06-20T18:06:54.813-07:002013-06-20T18:06:54.813-07:00A couple small details on Altamont:
You wrote th...A couple small details on Altamont: <br /><br />You wrote that the Dead were scheduled to come on last, after the Stones. I thought they were supposed to play before the Stones? <br /><br />You also mention that their Fillmore West show was canceled because of Altamont. But according to McNally, they were still scheduled to play there. When McIntire took them to a meal after returning from Altamont, the drummers announced they wouldn't play; McIntire informed Paul Barratta (the Fillmore manager) that the Dead weren't coming, & Barratta offered the audience free tickets to other shows. This is the story both in his book and in Bill Graham Presents.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58480553383814411052012-12-07T18:32:15.309-08:002012-12-07T18:32:15.309-08:00Jack, thanks for telling us about this. Do you rec...Jack, thanks for telling us about this. Do you recall how well attended the show was? Was it mostly SMU students, or locals or what?Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-34296683191290064852012-12-07T18:06:28.496-08:002012-12-07T18:06:28.496-08:00Regarding 1969-12-26 in Dallas, you write, "P...Regarding 1969-12-26 in Dallas, you write, "Playing a small theater in Dallas in 1969 when school was out of session seems like a financial risk, and I don't know how many people actually attended the show."<br /><br />My brother and I did! It's pretty incredible that he ran into this article, and that I'm now listening to the concert on archive.org. I would never have remembered the date, but I remember the circumstances really well - the Garcia-Weir acoustic set slowly transformed into the electric set as person by person the rest of the band slowly arrived, just like they had planned it that way. It was quite cool.Jack Krebshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08760691909431843913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-60534626970722462952012-10-29T20:50:48.303-07:002012-10-29T20:50:48.303-07:00It turns out that some "lost" shows from...It turns out that some "lost" shows from this period may have been found. <br />Dave Lemieux has announced that a batch of 15-20 reels has been returned to the Vault by a relative of a former crewmember, containing about 10 hours of several shows from Nov 69-Feb 70. <br />These reels had been considered lost, and in about 3-4 cases, complete shows that we'd had incomplete. (I'm wondering if the Fillmore shows on Dec 20-21 are among these; but there are other candidates in this time period too.)<br />Lemieux said that some reels were from shows where not even the setlist was known. This made me think of 12/22/69, an obscure show completely unknown outside this blog; but there are some partial shows that could fit the bill (like the missing portions of 1/24 or 2/2/70). <br />He did mention that one new late-69 Dark Star was found [12/20/69?], but has given no dates yet; hopefully within a few months we'll hear more details about the dates & possible release. <br />My own speculation is that these were probably Bear's reels, so they probably won't extend past the Feb '70 Fillmore East shows, and the lost out-of-state shows after that may remain lost...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-27009661159952798652012-06-25T10:38:34.908-07:002012-06-25T10:38:34.908-07:00Here's an address correction for the Thelma Th...Here's an address correction for the Thelma Theater. News ads say it was at 8917 Sunset Blvd.Jerry's Brokendown Palaceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06451361448230329754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-60591203375018842432012-02-16T17:29:19.396-08:002012-02-16T17:29:19.396-08:00You're not imagining it all. Zephyr got togeth...You're not imagining it all. Zephyr got together in Boulder, but there wasn't really anywhere there for them to play, so they had to branch out. They played regularly in Denver and other places, but they were the pride of Boulder. To the extent that 60s scenes were very regionalized, Zephyr were the kings of Colorado.<br /><br />Guitarist Tommy Bolin was actually from Sioux City, IA, I think, but he had left as a teenager with the cops (and his girlfriend's dad, I think) on his trail and ended up in Boulder. He was in a group called American Standard Band that is a familiar sight from old posters. Zephyr released two lps (I think on ABC Records) that were interesting but didn't quite represent them. There's a live tape or two as well.<br /><br />Tommy Bolin went on to release some great solo albums, and also played with Billy Cobham, the James Gang and Deep Purple, among others. He died in 1976, under the usual circumstances. Ini the 21st Century, the Bolin estate released a live cd of a Zehphyr reunion held in 1973, a terrific album (Live At Art's Bar And Grill). Zephyr was the shoulda woulda coulda of Boulder in the 60s, no question.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-43142167631011165962012-02-16T17:18:55.342-08:002012-02-16T17:18:55.342-08:00Is there a Colorado connection to Zephyr, or am I ...Is there a Colorado connection to Zephyr, or am I just imagining that?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-46458887302450218732012-02-16T15:57:04.685-08:002012-02-16T15:57:04.685-08:00Zephyr! I love them--what a great and far too obsc...Zephyr! I love them--what a great and far too obscure band. That really must have been some show.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-69291337012885276592012-02-16T09:59:29.372-08:002012-02-16T09:59:29.372-08:00The opening band for the 12/26/69 show at SMU McFa...The opening band for the 12/26/69 show at SMU McFarlin Auditorium in Dallas, Texas was Zephyr, featuring a then unknown, Tommy Bolin, on lead guitar.<br /><br />~David DiPietro<br />Dallas TexasDavid DiPietrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361412857438836983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-52931676498713521832010-07-25T13:55:12.226-07:002010-07-25T13:55:12.226-07:00I'm starting to warm to the idea of a Kaleidos...I'm starting to warm to the idea of a Kaleidoscope 12/14/69 show. It's well within the realm of the plausible. I'm updating the post accordingly.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-63895348190696401432010-07-24T19:33:16.970-07:002010-07-24T19:33:16.970-07:00LIA recently mentioned a possible 12/14/69 show in...LIA recently <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213" rel="nofollow">mentioned</a> a possible 12/14/69 show in LA. Thoughts?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-43971889970527855332010-07-24T19:07:24.742-07:002010-07-24T19:07:24.742-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.michaeljupillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01080383292452296886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58285037123248332592010-07-06T13:20:36.875-07:002010-07-06T13:20:36.875-07:00Very interesting about the "lost" Alliga...Very interesting about the "lost" Alligator possibly being Dec 22 1969.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-57802299705461840782010-07-06T13:08:55.103-07:002010-07-06T13:08:55.103-07:00You mention at one point that Garcia was playing a...You mention at one point that Garcia was playing a Fender... He switched to a Strat at some point in fall '69, but I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact first show with the Strat. He switched back to the SG in late April '70 (the Denver shows, presumably, though the first photos I know of are from 4/26/70).<br /><br />And it looks like the 12/21/69 show was added after the poster was made...presumably the bands were free and the demand was there.<br /><br />And, I have one post talking about a jam compilation that Latvala put together - <br />http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2010/01/dicks-jams.html <br />There was a mystery Alligator there that I thought had to come from Dec '69 (for musical reasons)...I now speculate that it might be from the unknown 12/22/69 show, as it's the only fully "lost" show in this month.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com