tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post3797923020645530921..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: Grateful Dead Tour Itinerary January 1968Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-10832501822504783362022-01-30T11:45:31.910-08:002022-01-30T11:45:31.910-08:00Ramrod was indeed from Hermiston and had met Rex w...Ramrod was indeed from Hermiston and had met Rex while in a youth correctional facility, I think. Mike Hagen was an original Prankster and was responsible for Ramrod in the Prankster scene. Mike’s brother became a roadie, as did Sunny Heard, Joe Winslow and others from the Pendleton/Hermiston area. I reconnected with a childhood friend after 15 years,the day after Sunny was murdered in Hermiston. Sunny’s half brother was there and I learned my friend had drove truck for the Dead. There are others in that area who have connections with theDead.timgrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11057894910022587222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-28035434375835547232020-07-23T20:34:22.632-07:002020-07-23T20:34:22.632-07:00I was at the Seattle show. My first Dead show. Fir...I was at the Seattle show. My first Dead show. First and only Quicksilver show. I worked weekdays, and I went on my day off. So that would have been Saturday. the Head Lights light show was awesome.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644748733179248551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-87221269103154497032018-09-03T18:42:18.918-07:002018-09-03T18:42:18.918-07:001-27 is far from lost, with several sbd sources:
...1-27 is far from lost, with several sbd sources: <br />http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2018/01/thoughts-on-seattle-12768-guest-post.html Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58258500435042923802018-09-02T20:20:53.906-07:002018-09-02T20:20:53.906-07:00If the 1-22-68 show is indeed 1-26-68, which can m...If the 1-22-68 show is indeed 1-26-68, which can make sense, it seems odd that there would be a crisp sbd for 1-26 an nothing for 1-27. Of course 1-27 could have been lost, but I think the date still needs an asterisk that it is possible this was an impromptu show in San Fran during htat lost week of time.SJShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11544642309976324727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-61340792175253281892016-09-01T18:32:17.530-07:002016-09-01T18:32:17.530-07:00JGMF turned up a tentative January '68 tour sc...JGMF turned up a tentative January '68 tour schedule in the Dead's Archive with some interesting discrepancies from the actual tour as played: <br /><br />- Medford, OR is written as a city stop after the Eureka 1/20 show. This puzzles me (where would they play?), and it's not really close to anywhere they were going, though they did use the Medford airport to fly back home at tour's end since it's near Ashland. <br />- the Portland State show was originally scheduled for Tuesday, 1/23. (There's a written reminder, "leave 10 Monday.") It was later rescheduled for the 29th.<br />- a show in Corvallis (probably the Ballroom at OSU) is written in for Wednesday, Jan 31. This may have been cancelled, or not actually scheduled in the first place. <br />- the Dead were considering various places to play in Portland, including the Masonic Temple and the Silver Skate/Wooden Shoe, before settling on the Crystal Ballroom. (The capacities for each venue are written in.) <br />- there's a note, "Sat nite - Salem Armory," probably an alternate place to play on Sat Feb 3 til they got the Crystal Ballroom for two nights.<br /><br />So this demonstrates the cloud of possibilities out of which an actual tour emerged! Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-44033078156233759542013-05-22T12:36:50.171-07:002013-05-22T12:36:50.171-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16646544583929965816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-56625196360680279032013-05-18T08:41:16.953-07:002013-05-18T08:41:16.953-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-11019939427125011922013-05-12T12:24:13.820-07:002013-05-12T12:24:13.820-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271751159893900498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-89414500943259052532013-03-07T08:57:16.021-08:002013-03-07T08:57:16.021-08:00Send me an email through my website
scottmcdougal...Send me an email through my website <br />scottmcdougall.net and I'll send you the photo that I have.beadfarmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501949481085129161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-86699651924184831732012-08-28T21:26:39.457-07:002012-08-28T21:26:39.457-07:00You may or may not have heard, but Joe Winslow pas...You may or may not have heard, but Joe Winslow passed away on August 18th in Lake County, CA.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914238034987370629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-60174916605004134382012-08-25T23:42:41.895-07:002012-08-25T23:42:41.895-07:00Are those photos available for viewing? my email f...Are those photos available for viewing? my email frankstinkfootzappa@yahoo.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04770898291185130942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-58230668591009299452012-07-13T21:53:33.360-07:002012-07-13T21:53:33.360-07:00Thanks for the quote! I'd forgotten all about ...Thanks for the quote! I'd forgotten all about that piece. So they did use the Medford airport to go home. <br />McNally briefly refers to the truck-unloading incident, mentioning that the police stopped it outside Ashland (the last show, 2/4). <br /><br />The Dead's Oregon shows (Portland, Eugene, Ashland) are pretty much in a straight north-south line, while Pendleton is some 200 miles east of Portland (and farther from the other cities). If you're going there, it's only because you're going to spend some time there.<br />Pendleton's a cowboy town, best known for its rodeo. <br /><br />According to McNally, Rex Jackson and Joe Winslow (another crew member) were from Pendleton; Ramrod, John Hagen, and Sonny Heard all lived in Hermiston, the town next to Pendleton. <br />Ramrod was the first to become a Dead roadie in '67; Jackson & Hagen followed in '68, (Heard I'm not sure when) and lastly Winslow in '71. <br /><br />Steve Parish talks a little more about these guys in his book: <br />"Jackson, Heard, and Ramrod didn't even live in Pendleton; they lived in a little town called Hermiston, which was sort of across the tracks from Pendleton and was known to be even smaller and harder. So these guys had grown up tough together." <br />Their initial connection with the Dead was through the Pranksters. But these guys were kind of authentic rough cowboy-types, and that definitely rubbed off on the Dead - Weir in particular idealized that kind of life.<br /><br />This gives a sense of what Hermiston's like & how far off the beaten path it is: <br />http://rvfor5.blogspot.com/2011/07/hermiston-highlights.html <br />"Hermiston is no place to visit for fun & relaxation..."<br /><br />Anyway, five Dead crew-members all from this little cowboy town in Oregon - there is definitely a story there, and some of that story may have happened in the first week of February '68. It seems Corry's speculation about the band hanging out somewhere was right...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8717025483384462832012-07-13T15:09:07.789-07:002012-07-13T15:09:07.789-07:00Pendleton, OR, isn't really on the way to anyw...Pendleton, OR, isn't really on the way to anywhere that the Dead were going to or from. However, Ramrod was from a small town near Pendleton (Hermiston). In fact, a couple of other long time-roadies were from the same town, Rex Jackson and someone else (either Heard or Hagen, I don't recall).<br /><br />Do you think its a coincidence that the Dead stayed in Pendleton? I don't. Do you think its an accident some guys from around there joined Ramrod on the crew. Nope.<br /><br />Thanks for highlighting this.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-80524486276542059812012-07-13T09:24:27.895-07:002012-07-13T09:24:27.895-07:00An excellent article on an excellent tour.
I just...An excellent article on an excellent tour.<br /><br />I just reread an old issue of Jackson's "The Golden Road" which contains some reminiscences of this tour by John Cipollina. <br /><br />He confirms they flew home from Medford but more interestingly he also gives us another stop, Pendleton. He does not say they played a show there, only that they stopped at a hotel.<br /><br />Here is the story from "The Golden Road" issue 5 page 20<br /><br />"The funniest thing about the tour was the narcotics chase. The cops chased us from one end of California, all the way through Oregon and Washington. The first show we played on that tour, the authorities found a couple of roaches in the building after the show, and that led to a big scandal in the local papers. They called the dance a "pot orgy"! The Oregon authorities were informed and they really dogged us everywhere. It was a real Keystone Cops caper. They were always one step behind us until Pendleton, Oregon. There they were a step ahead. They raided the hotel an hour and a half before we got there, and then left!<br /><br />We had no idea what was going on. As soon as we'd leave a place it seemed like all these guys would bust in, McCloud-style, and tear up the bedding, check under the light switches. Finally, the last day of the tour, we were all booked for a noon flight out of Medford, Oregon. Well, we ended up taking a 10:30 flight, so when they tried their last big raid, there was no one there again, except for the equipment guys, who never carried anything on them. The cops' warrant didn't cover the equipment truck anyway, so they just drove away, leaving these poor guys cursing again.<br /><br />Eventually, though, they got the correct search warrant and they stopped the truck out on the highway. The Dead have always carried a lot of equipment, and Quicksilver did, too, plus we had Jerry Abrams' light show equipment in there, too. So the cops took every single piece of equipment out of the truck and spread it out next to the highway. It must have looked awesome to people driving by. The roadies didn't care. They were going to get paid whether they were a day late or not, so they just sat there and made the cops do everything. After the search had failed to turn up anything, the roadies insisted the cops put everything back. The equipment guys wouldn't lift a finger! Now, when you go on tour for a few weeks with a big truck, you really learn how to pack it, but these highway patrolmen had no idea how to put all the stuff back in. They'd fill the truck completely and a third of the equipment would still be on the roadside, so they'd start again. It took them hours to do it. The Dead and Quicksilver came out smelling like a rose in the end. I'll bet some people got chewed out for that one!"<br /><br />John says "they were always one step behind us until Pendleton" so it does not sound like this happened early in the tour, it sounds like Jan 31 or Feb 1. If they didn't play a show in the Pendleton area why would they book a hotel there?<br /><br />My knowledge of Oregon is miniscule so I won't speculate further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-62338215623151454872011-04-06T19:20:29.710-07:002011-04-06T19:20:29.710-07:00A few more recollections regarding this show/tour:...A few more recollections regarding this show/tour:<br />I recall that there were some drug busts - and also a movie reel was supposedly confiscated by the authorities that featured a nude woman turning cartwheels outdoors and shown in slow motion. I remember this reel quite well(being a young teenager) and she must have been 20 feet tall on the screen behind the band. <br />My guess would be that the band flew home out of Medford on their final return to SF as it's very near Ashland.<br />Also, if you're up for the research, there is a review of the Eagles Auditorium show from this tour in the Helix (Seattle's underground paper during the 60's) that I read a few years back when I had a set of these. However, I don't recall any of the details.<br />Also - the remaining photo that shows the band and a slice of audience hasn't been published.beadfarmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501949481085129161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-82309686472387592011-04-06T16:20:15.902-07:002011-04-06T16:20:15.902-07:00beadfarmer, thanks for the amazing eyewitness acco...beadfarmer, thanks for the amazing eyewitness account. Are the B&W photos (grainy as they may be) posted or published anywhere?<br /><br />Its very interesting to find out that there was commercial service from SFO to McKinleyville. I had wondered if the bands had chartered a plane (per McNally above) but now it looks like they just flew commercial. That means my whole thesis that the Dead and QMS drove to Eureka and spent a week trolling around the Pacific Northwest was in fact, wrong. The Dead flew to Arcata, flew home to SFO, then flew to Seattle a week later. I'll put an update on the post.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-9069616976123437702011-04-06T14:51:00.440-07:002011-04-06T14:51:00.440-07:00This is interesting reading. My first GD show was ...This is interesting reading. My first GD show was the Jan. 20th concert in Eureka. I was 13 at the time and a friend at school had given me a heads up that a band his cousin was in was going to play in Eureka. His cousin turned out to be John Cipollina. Soon it was out that the Dead and Quicksilver were going to play the Municipal Auditorium - nobody ever played Eureka. My dad gave me and a neighbor friend a lift and took us early as he thought we might be too young to get in. No problem there and we were so early that the place was empty. We took our seats at the very front/center of this low stage and just waited as the place filled up. I'll reiterate from earlier posts that Eureka and the rest of Humboldt county was not the place it became a little later. In fact I like to think that this event was the turning point, or at least a major one that helped transform this depressed logging/fishing community into the place it is today. 280 miles from SF was a long way and the SF scene was slow to arrive up there. Anyway, imagine that most of the audience was used to teen dances with local cover bands. This show could well have been from another planet. The amps spread across the back of the stage and some were painted. In addition to the 2 drum kits, there were also some large gongs. The light show (Jerry Abrams Headlights) was incredible and the recording crew and light crew with projectors took up the rear of the balcony. Needless to say, the Grateful Dead had a presence like no other rock and roll band that had played there before and they played LOUD. What an initiation! I came away in awe of the music both bands had performed along with the visual treat of a real light show. <br />A few other notes:<br />There was commercial air service from SF to McKinleyville (just north of Arcata) at the time. The airport probably hasn't changed much since then. <br />Also, at that time I was already into collecting concert posters from SF and couldn't wait to grab one for this show from a shop window in Eureka. Not only did I score a few of those, I was able to purchase some 8x10, b&w photos that someone had taken from the balcony during the show. No idea who the photographer was, but I suspect he was a high school student with darkroom access. I still have this grainy photo of GD on stage with about 50 backs of heads. I can identify a hand full of people, including myself.<br />In 2005, Grateful Dead Productions commissioned me to do a 40th anniversary poster. A couple of years later they asked me to design and illustrate the covers for the Road Trips series. I just completed my part of the Europe '72 box set last week. Funny how this stuff comes back around . . .beadfarmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501949481085129161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-48059306147724041342011-03-26T07:40:23.344-07:002011-03-26T07:40:23.344-07:00As always, it's a pleasure reading you folks.
...As always, it's a pleasure reading you folks.<br /><br />I have a note or two to add but it might not come for a few days.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-17590211338831951002011-03-25T12:40:06.299-07:002011-03-25T12:40:06.299-07:00Fascinating research. It appears, then, that the N...Fascinating research. It appears, then, that the Northwest tour was mostly a plane tour, as opposed to a truck tour. The bands must have chartered a plane for Eureka. Very interesting indeed. That still leaves a couple of days between EMU and the Crystal, but it answers the question of the gap between Eureka and Seattle.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-6720477432617883682011-03-25T12:30:59.005-07:002011-03-25T12:30:59.005-07:00A few more things -
We know that in Dec '67, ...A few more things - <br />We know that in Dec '67, the band established a place to stay (the house of a friend of Weir's in Englewood, NJ), and flew between California & NY while the equipment truck drove. <br />Though on a smaller scale, it seems they did the same in this NW tour. <br /><br />McNally says the band flew to Eureka for the 1/20 show. A Seattle newspaper clipping for the 1/26 show says, "Thirty haunting humans have flown from San Francisco with Quick & the Dead to the Eagles Auditorium." McNally says that after the last show in Ashland 2/4, the band flew home while the equipment drove.<br />(He doesn't, though, say what airports they used! There is an airport in Medford, though. The Eureka airport is tiny today, and may have been insignificant back then...)<br /><br />I know the Seattle newspaper blurb is not really "hard evidence" (between the Quick, the Dead, and the light-show & crews, were there really 30 people?) - but it does suggest that the band stayed in SF after 1/20 and flew up to Seattle. The equipment may have gone its own way... <br />(Since the Dead were acting as their own promoters for this tour, perhaps we can't expect a sensible itinerary!)<br /><br />As for the downtime between the other shows, I find it very likely that the band must have known someone in OR/WA who could take them in. Kesey may be the main suspect, but there were probably others as well who've been lost in the veils of time.<br />But possibly, a series of motels may still bear the scars of that tour...<br /><br />As a sidenote, the Eureka Times-Standard (1/19/68) said that also traveling with the bands was "Live Thunder, sound technicians who will record this first appearance in the Pacific NW tour for future release in a record album."<br /><br />And BTW, I've seen alternate accounts that the 2/14/68 show was the "official" opening of the Carousel. But that seems suspicious, if there were no known shows there for another month. [Jon McIntire's account in Jackson's book also jibes with a March opening.] McNally indicates that the new Carousel team remodeled & rebuilt the stage before the 3/15 show. (I suppose 2/14 could have been a quasi-opening...)<br />The 2/14/68 CD booklet says that the show was put on by Headstone Productions (the company the bands put together). The Rolling Stone article later that year on the closing of the Carousel notes that 2/14/68 was the first show to finance Headstone. <br />http://www.dead.net/sites/deadbeta.rhino.com/files/images/19680810_0289.jpg (love the picture)<br /><br />Also BTW, the PH Phactor Jug Band caught my eye, even if they only played one or two shows on the tour. A jug-band opening for the Dead is almost too perfect! They seem to have been fairly well-known at the time, as they opened for Jefferson Airplane now & then in '67 (and had played at the Fillmore). They also did their own version of Minglewood Blues.<br />http://pnwbands.com/phphactor.htmlLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-52041818070568520612011-03-25T05:01:19.465-07:002011-03-25T05:01:19.465-07:00After some searching, I think McNally conflated tw...After some searching, I think McNally conflated two different issues of the Portland State Vanguard. (Treacherous notes!)<br />http://e.dead.net/sites/deadbeta.rhino.com/files/images/19680126_0243.jpg <br /><br />Another tidbit about the Eugene 1/30 show - <br />You mention that it looks like it was organized at the last minute. It appears the jug band might not have played.<br /><br />On the dead.net site, Jim Richmond says: <br />"I was the lead singer for the Palace Meat Market. Four days prior to this show we were asked to open for the Dead. I had been with the band about 10 days and had never performed before more than 20 or 30 people as a folk singer. Imagine me stepping onstage to find some 2-3000 real strange looking people."<br /><br />http://pnwbands.com/palacemeatmarket.htmlLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-72081259219074611272011-03-25T04:15:04.569-07:002011-03-25T04:15:04.569-07:00Always nice to see another addition to the tour it...Always nice to see another addition to the tour itinerary.<br />It's interesting to read about the Chronicle and this 'dark period' of Jan '68.<br /><br />A few comments from McNally: <br /><br />He says that the 1/17 Carousel show was a rented show, and the 3/15 Airplane/Dead show was the official opening, so it appears the lease didn't start until March.<br />[As he says, "unfortunately, the venue was dark the second weekend [3/22-24] and lost momentum. For their next shows [3/29-31], they went to the Haight and gave away tickets, and then gave away ice cream at the shows."]<br /><br />McNally reports that the Eureka police were ready & waiting for the Dead when they came. Apparently, the Eureka paper did call the 1/20 show a "pot orgy," when police found leftover roaches after the show. The press elsewhere, of course, picked up on this.<br /><br />Rock Scully spoke to the Portland State Vanguard (1/26/68), telling them, "The Dead never played psychedelic music. We don't take drugs anymore." <br />The paper also printed an ecstatic review of a "phenomenal" recent show: "Flash after flash, skyrockets, bombs... I've never seen anything like the Grateful Dead & Jefferson Airplane lightshow." [Which was provided by Jerry Abram's Head Lights.] The music "was loud enough that we didn't need ears. We could see and feel the music, it saturated the ballroom...they kept hitting climaxes, bursting, sense-tearing climaxes, until on some magic cue they relaxed, dropped back to reality, stringing us along."<br /><br />[Unless it's a typo, I am not sure what to make of the 1/26/68 date McNally gives this issue of the Portland college paper, and I haven't seen the paper. The Dead of course played a Portland ballroom on 1/29, and then came back and played another on Feb 2-3 - is it possible they ALSO played Portland during the week between 1/20 and 1/26?]<br /><br />And finally, McNally says that for the 1/30 show, "a good crowd somehow plowed its way through a major snowstorm to get to the EMU Ballroom." Which is evidence of the Dead's early reputation; although I would point out that in Eugene, it doesn't take much snow to make a "snowstorm"...Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com