tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post5347011855792009941..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: John Kahn Live Performance History 1970 (John Kahn IV)Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-70638386232028413172019-01-06T20:20:12.768-08:002019-01-06T20:20:12.768-08:00I have it as Richard Favis. A symphony guy, not re...I have it as Richard Favis. A symphony guy, not really sure for certain.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-57780973648411639912019-01-06T20:13:06.030-08:002019-01-06T20:13:06.030-08:00I see the [sic] after "Richard Feebas" -...I see the [sic] after "Richard Feebas" - what is his actual name?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-83659754457656076842016-01-18T20:01:10.963-08:002016-01-18T20:01:10.963-08:00John Kahn was the producer of Southern Comfort, no...John Kahn was the producer of Southern Comfort, not the bass player, so Kahn would have played the Bloomfield gig. Bob Jones would have been drumming for SC, so Bill Vitt would have drummed for Bloomfield. Since Bloomfield never rehearsed, substitutions made little difference. Hmm, a familiar refrain...Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-23359160307978405102016-01-18T17:14:38.663-08:002016-01-18T17:14:38.663-08:00An ad in the Barb (January 30-February 6, 1970, p....An ad in the Barb (January 30-February 6, 1970, p. 20) shows Southern Comfort at Mandrake's on Saturday 1/31/70 and Sunday 2/1. Saturday runs across the Bloomfield-Gravenites gig at NOH - thoughts on that?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-1686305474025047252013-04-03T22:25:36.587-07:002013-04-03T22:25:36.587-07:00Correction to the last comment - it's been poi...Correction to the last comment - it's been pointed out that Vitt had actually left the Sons of Champlin in 1972, nor was he enthusiastic about going on tour, so his remarks about leaving the Garcia/Saunders band are very inaccurate!Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-53700766873047169632013-03-29T03:32:33.586-07:002013-03-29T03:32:33.586-07:00A recent interview with Bill Vitt covers his assoc...A recent interview with Bill Vitt covers his association with Garcia: <br />http://www.jambands.com/features/2012/11/16/bill-vitt-remembers-his-keystone-companions-jerry-garcia-and-merl-saunders?1 <br /><br />BV: "It was ’69. There was a little club called the Matrix in San Francisco and it was just a show place. There was no dancing or anything. And they had a four-track studio built in the club... <br />A friend of mine named Howard Wales, a keyboard/organ player; he and I were playing a duo there. Backed up Freddie King, James Cotton, people like that. Jerry Garcia came in one night and jammed with us. And he started coming in on a regular basis. Then, I got us a bass player named Richard Feebas [sic] who was signed with the Oakland Symphony at the time. Shortly after that, another bass player named John Kahn, who I was doing a lot of sessions with and playing in other bands with, he came and replaced Richard. Eventually, within a couple years Merl Saunders replaced Howard Wales. So, that was the core of the band, the four of us at that point. <br />As we started playing more gigs, Tom Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival) played with us a lot and Armando Peraza, percussionist, Martin Fierro, horn player (saxophonist). It was still a jam thing. We never rehearsed. We just went out and played. So, that’s pretty much how it started.<br />We did do one record with Howard Wales called Hooteroll? It was on Columbia... <br />Howard and Jerry were good friends. I don’t remember exactly how it came down but it was probably Howard said, “Hey, come on down and sit in with us.” ...We had a lot of people coming to sit in with us from time to time." <br /><br />He also mentions his early work as a studio musician in LA, the reasons for moving up to the Bay Area, and his reason for leaving the Garcia/Saunders band in '74: <br />"I played with the band for four years. I was playing with Bill Champlin at the same time, and I had to make a choice. I put a lot of energy into rehearsing with what was called the Sons of Champlin... There was a lot of time signature changes in Bill’s songs, really cool stuff. So, we rehearsed like eight hours a day. So, I put that time in and I thought, “You know what? I better stick with this band because I paid my dues…” Jerry was starting to work a lot with the Dead, also. At the end, before I left, we weren’t playing that many gigs ‘cause the Dead were really hittin’ then." [Garcia/Saunders did only play a few shows in Nov/Dec '73.] <br /><br />Vitt emphasizes, "I don’t remember any rehearsals. It was a jam band. We just got up and played. Sometimes, before we got onstage somebody’d say, “Here’s that Stevie Wonder tune. Why don’t we try that tonight?” Verbally, run down the chords and go out and play it."Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-3444096784722211342012-03-07T17:00:21.659-08:002012-03-07T17:00:21.659-08:00Great stuff. I updated the post. I don't know ...Great stuff. I updated the post. I don't know about the Boz Scaggs reference--he played there so much, I think that Wasserman just got crossed up.<br /><br />I actually saw Howard Wales and Harvey Mandel play together, opening for Government Mule at the Fillmore about 1997 or so. It was good, but not as powerful as I had expected.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-54268660687260738972012-03-06T22:56:16.608-08:002012-03-06T22:56:16.608-08:00And get this, from the next day's (i.e., 6/30/...And get this, from the next day's (i.e., 6/30/70) "opening today" feature: "Harvey Mandell [sic] and Howard Wales at the Matrix".Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-73069868881890362532012-03-06T22:53:19.105-08:002012-03-06T22:53:19.105-08:00D'oh!
Then this unusual listing in the "...D'oh!<br /><br />Then this unusual listing in the "opening today" box: "Howard Wales, Terry Haggerty and Friends at the Matrix".<br /><br />Now I am really confused.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-15550223855220907882012-03-06T22:49:39.829-08:002012-03-06T22:49:39.829-08:00Regarding your 6/29/70 Matrix listing, I have just...Regarding your 6/29/70 Matrix listing, I have just changed mine to Boz Scaggs, and not a Monday night jam.<br /><br />"Boz Scagg's cooking organization is at the Matrix" -- Wasserman, John L. 1970. An Affluent Shift by 'Soul' Singers. San Francisco Chronicle, June 29, 1970, p. 39 ("Hither and Yon" item).Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-74267072557227209732012-01-29T12:55:14.852-08:002012-01-29T12:55:14.852-08:00I know Gary Jackson was long-gone by then. Who was...I know Gary Jackson was long-gone by then. Who was managing the Matrix? I wonder if there are any ledgers, calendars, anything.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-61251584648921204002012-01-29T11:16:09.149-08:002012-01-29T11:16:09.149-08:00Well, the Dead played Fillmore East on July 12, 19...Well, the Dead played Fillmore East on July 12, 1970. Since Fillmore East shows ended at about 4am, if not later, Garcia would have had to have practically gone straight from SFO to the Matrix. Not impossible, however.<br /><br />On the other hand, its probably just one of those Matrix mysteries. Without a tape, we know nothing. Shows were never reviewed, and eyewitnesses can never recall anything specific, since they usually had been to the Matrix many times.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-80705151281160026572012-01-29T10:51:29.633-08:002012-01-29T10:51:29.633-08:00I am wondering why I have never listed Monday 7/13...I am wondering why I have never listed Monday 7/13/70 in my Garcia lists. Any positive evidence in favor of it?Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-90264418890559059002011-04-21T02:25:04.876-07:002011-04-21T02:25:04.876-07:00To be clear, the reference for the Micky and the H...To be clear, the reference for the Micky and the H(e)artbeats dates is via an ad in San Francisco Good Times (Vol III, Issue 28, pp16) dated July 24. This should be Issue 29 but the front page incorrectly uses the Vol/Iss from the previous week (July 17) meaning there are two issues with the same reference.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-80589124723536540172011-04-21T02:24:22.103-07:002011-04-21T02:24:22.103-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-63348444581535005992011-04-19T08:34:47.669-07:002011-04-19T08:34:47.669-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-87595125071968647742011-03-30T16:14:01.887-07:002011-03-30T16:14:01.887-07:00I am finishing up another post on these Hartbeats ...I am finishing up another post on these Hartbeats & acoustic shows... Many discoveries have been made!Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-73670202820013872722011-03-28T07:15:34.968-07:002011-03-28T07:15:34.968-07:00The dates on that list are coterminous with the ti...The dates on that list are coterminous with the time at the Share of a particular sound guy.<br /><br />I think some of the Van stuff circulates, but AFAIK most of it is sitting on 7" 1/2 track reels and has not circulated.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-30634271504692639842011-03-27T17:12:45.562-07:002011-03-27T17:12:45.562-07:00Wow, I had no idea. Do any of these circulate? I&#...Wow, I had no idea. Do any of these circulate? I'm particularly interested in the lesser known bands (I have both Clover albums, and the first two Mike Finnegan recordings as well).I had no idea there was a live Flying Circus tape.<br /><br />The Lion's Share may have changed its soundman. In the 1970-71 period, the soundman was Charlie Kelly, the once and future Sons Of Champlin road manager. I think he left the Lions Share when the Sons started to get serious again, in mid-71.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-66887242283492195282011-03-27T16:37:44.896-07:002011-03-27T16:37:44.896-07:00"is there a list of available SBD tapes from ..."is there a list of available SBD tapes from the Lion's Share - are there any from as early as July '70?"<br /><br />I don't know of any dates earlier than June of '71 or later than January of '72 for in-house Lion's Share recordings.<br /><br />6/14/1971 Bola Sete<br />7/4/1971 Mike Finnigan, Jerry Woods and Friends<br />7/30/1971 Mose Allison<br />8/4/1971 Van Morrison<br />8/9/1971 Auditions<br />8/22/1971 Mike Finnigan, Jerry Woods and Friends<br />8/22/1971 Pendergrass, Kathy MacDonald<br />9/10/1971 Sopwith Camel<br />9/16/1971 Mike Williams<br />9/24/1971 Garcia, Fogerty, Merl Saunders, Kreutzmann<br />9/24/1971 Jerry Garcia, Merl Saunders, Tom Fogerty, Bill Kreutzmann<br />9/25/1971 Jerry Corbitt, Charlie Daniels, Jeffrey Myer, Earl Brigsby, Joe Palmer<br />9/25/1971 Jerry Garcia, Merl Saunders, Tom Fogerty, Bill Kreutzmann<br />10/8/1971 Mike Finnigan & In Your Own Back Yard<br />10/24/1971 Clover<br />11/14/1971 John Hammond, Jorma Kaukonen<br />11/26/1971 Van Morrison<br />11/27/1971 Van Morrison<br />11/27/1971 Van Morrison<br />11/27/1971 Van Morrison; Juke Boy Bonner<br />12/23/1971 Sopwith Camel<br />12/29/1971 Flying Circus<br />12/30/1971 Joy of Cooking<br />12/31/1971 Joy of Cooking<br />1/15/1972 Sopwith Camel<br />1/16/1972 Sopwith Camel<br />1/19/1972 Garcia, Saunders, Kahn, VittFate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-89371428496599737052011-03-27T12:42:02.247-07:002011-03-27T12:42:02.247-07:00yeah, whoops on the day of the week. I kind of agr...yeah, whoops on the day of the week. I kind of agree with the theory that a San Diego listing on a tape box is so unlikely that its more plausible that's its true (as opposed to say writing "Fillmore" for "Avalon"). I also like the concept that low cost stealth tours were required because Alembic was on the road. The band could use the Fillmore West sound system in August.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-60855197868147819172011-03-27T12:37:31.639-07:002011-03-27T12:37:31.639-07:00JGMF - thanks for the Medicine Ball dates.
I am a...JGMF - thanks for the Medicine Ball dates.<br /><br />I am absolutely certain our "8/5/70" tape is not from the Golden Hall. The tape is from a small club. Listen to a Golden Hall show - like say, 1/10/70 - the audience sound is completely different.<br /><br />Apart from the tape - I just feel that the Dead would not have done an out-of-town acoustic-only show in a large theater - at least not unless the show was advertised as something like "Acoustic Dead".<br />But it is interesting that the show coincides with the start of the Caravan. (And the only other known August shows until Los Angeles on the 28th are at the Fillmore West.)<br /><br />I wonder, is there a list of available SBD tapes from the Lion's Share - are there any from as early as July '70?Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-37688281870140168862011-03-27T11:47:25.128-07:002011-03-27T11:47:25.128-07:00Also, Corry, you have your days of the week a bit ...Also, Corry, you have your days of the week a bit off ... Aug 4 was a Tuesday, so I doubt we should look for a SoCal show that night.<br /><br />If anyone has access to the Underground Press Microfilm collection, he/she might want to check out the San Diego rag <i>door</i> for ads, reviews etc. of 8/5/70.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-74881809418240018462011-03-27T11:23:33.837-07:002011-03-27T11:23:33.837-07:00Medicine Ball Caravan tour dates from Deadbase IX....Medicine Ball Caravan tour dates from <i>Deadbase IX</i>.<br /><br />19700804 Virginia City, NV<br />19700806 Albuquerque, NM<br />19700809 Denver, CO<br />19700811 Omaha, NB<br />19700814 Bloomington, IN<br />19700820 Wheeling, WV<br /><br />Plus <a href="http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2009/12/gd-1970-caravan-of-love-tour.html" rel="nofollow">possible free gig in DC on 8/22 and Isle of Wight Festival on 8/25</a>.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-76994118776759045292011-03-27T11:19:56.398-07:002011-03-27T11:19:56.398-07:00Gaah, I just drafted a longish comment which disap...Gaah, I just drafted a longish comment which disappeared.<br /><br />Anyway, a few things.<br /><br />First, I think we are moving too fast away from the 8/5/70 San Diego dating on the tape. I am as skeptical of tape datings as anyone, but I don't have a theory as to how this identification could have attached to this tape unless it were accurate. I am ready to be persuaded, but I don't think we should start drawing conclusions too quickly. LIA, how sure are you of your ears on this one?<br /><br />Second, of course Lion's Share shows might have been taped. The soundman taped late 1971 - early 1972 shows, for example. Don't know about 1970, but it's not impossible.<br /><br />Third, the Medicine Ball Caravan tour was to run from Aug. 4 (Virginia City, NV) through most of the month of August, based on canceled shows identified in Deadbase IX. So this is consistent with an 8/5/70 all acoustic show, what with the Alembic gear being on the road.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.com