tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post7981934816988514267..comments2024-03-16T07:13:50.487-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: Grateful Dead Tour Itinerary March-April 1968Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-14952246592668224362022-10-04T22:12:28.617-07:002022-10-04T22:12:28.617-07:00The Walnut Creek dates were a mystery 12 years ago...The Walnut Creek dates were a mystery 12 years ago, but more is known now! <br />http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2015/09/grateful-dead-at-cliffords-catering.html Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-61642519823082774002022-10-04T21:34:35.588-07:002022-10-04T21:34:35.588-07:00Ugh. Jerry, not "Gerry". Stupid typo.Ugh. Jerry, not "Gerry". Stupid typo.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-81334708999075615072022-10-04T18:08:47.361-07:002022-10-04T18:08:47.361-07:00There is really no mystery about it, other than su...There is really no mystery about it, other than supposed DeadHeads constantly claiming these two shows never happened. The venue wasn't Looking Glass. That name belonged to the opening act, and it was that Bay Area band that actually set up the shows. The VENUE was Clifford's Catering Service at 1300 Blvd Way, Walnut Creek, CA. The shows were awesome, and Gerry and the band were very gracious to us (Looking Glass). We had not found our stride yet, but learned an awful lot just by hanging out with the Dead. Pig Pen was still alive then, pounding on the Hammond B3. It should have been a glorious weekend, but was tarnished by the stupidity of our having the ticket made without any security markings to tell a real ticket from a fake one. Both nights were grossly oversold, so badly that we weren't even able to pay the band what we owed them. Which is more than likely why these two shows are not mentioned very much. The Dead would probably just as soon forget it ever happened. But for a group of young aspiring musicians, all classically trained, it was the first real opportunity to be seen and heard. If you want further verification, reach out to me at rjmedia@me.com.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8223521992490907672018-12-10T23:26:17.486-08:002018-12-10T23:26:17.486-08:00Looking Glass was the opening band for the Walnut ...Looking Glass was the opening band for the Walnut Creek shows at Clifford's Catering. My friend Jim was in Looking Glass, and designed the poster. David Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02953369184880566500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-49656617911617711962015-09-05T23:38:20.418-07:002015-09-05T23:38:20.418-07:00The Walnut Creek mystery, solved at last!
http://...The Walnut Creek mystery, solved at last! <br />http://jgmf.blogspot.com/2015/09/grateful-dead-at-cliffords-catering.html Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-66350012856408174122015-06-07T20:52:05.167-07:002015-06-07T20:52:05.167-07:00"Anthem of the Sun is really the performance ..."Anthem of the Sun is really the performance of an eight-track tape; Phil and I performed it and it would be like four hands and sometimes Healy would have a hand in. We'd be there hovering around the boards in these various places at Criteria Studios, Miami, and in New York" (Garcia, Reich and Wenner 2003/1972, 64).<br /><br />Has anybody been into the Miami local of the American Federation of Musicians to ask about what kind of paperwork they might have? In principle, Warner Brothers-funded time at Criteria would have had to involved union paperwork. But maybe things were faster and looser than I would have thought, I am certainly no expert on that sort of thing.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-20450191259332638822012-03-16T08:50:35.376-07:002012-03-16T08:50:35.376-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-10545050627419057672011-03-20T19:58:04.535-07:002011-03-20T19:58:04.535-07:00Thanks for the info on the Dead at Melodyland Thea...Thanks for the info on the Dead at Melodyland Theatre in 1968.<br /> I was there when they opened for the Airplane.<br /> I was 13 and my friend drove me down from West L.A. to see the Airplane. We loved them at the time. They did stuff off "After Bathing at Baxters" and "Crown of Creation." We were there on a Saturday night when the Grateful Dead opened. I hadn't really heard of them. I only remember China Cat Sunflower because it was a catchy song. Bob Weir had long hair and looked young. The stage was in the round and slowly turned like a Lazy Susan on valium. I wouldn't see the Dead again until 1972 at the Hollywood Palladium. By them I was hooked. David Crosby played most the show with them. <br /> At Melodyland, they sold cool programs with lots of color pictures of the Airplane. I might still have it with all my other "stuff" somewhere in the garage.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16012781311240929051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-13543355824748995432010-11-19T21:56:11.922-08:002010-11-19T21:56:11.922-08:00The new release Road Trips: Vol 4, Number 1: Big R...The new release <a href="http://deaddisc.com/disc/Road_Trips_4_1_Big_Rock_Pow_Wow_69.htm" rel="nofollow"><i>Road Trips: Vol 4, Number 1: Big Rock Pow Wow 69</i></a> has this introduction by an unknown-to-me speaker on disc one (from Friday, May 23, 1969: "Air date of, 1968, Easter. The first group to ever play at the Love-In in East Greynolds Park was the Grateful Dead. They're the ones who blessed East Greynolds Park. And they're back with us. We basically started off just having a concert with the Grateful Dead, and we wound up with a whole festival. So, here they are: the best group in the universe, musicians' musicians, the dynamic, electronic, Grateful Dead!"Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8051796510305621982010-08-22T20:38:33.621-07:002010-08-22T20:38:33.621-07:00This is my new favorite website.This is my new favorite website.gankmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11498286616986410887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-25078193939171035972010-08-22T13:55:27.938-07:002010-08-22T13:55:27.938-07:00I have been in touch with Antion Meredith, better ...I have been in touch with Antion Meredith, better known as Vic Briggs when he was lead guitarist for Eric Burdon and The Animals. He is quite sure that after the financial debacle of the March 22 show at the Fairgounds, the Dead returned to San Francisco on Saturday and did not play the Grande on March 23.<br /><br />If there was an impending blizzard, it would help account for the poor attendance at the Fairgounds and the urgency to get out of town, since the free concert on March 24 wasn't going to happen anyway.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-53683126221473383562010-06-29T18:56:54.846-07:002010-06-29T18:56:54.846-07:00The photo I got was cropped, but I think it was th...The photo I got was cropped, but I think it was that Gene Anthony photo. Good find.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-18359543450849390182010-06-29T16:49:39.535-07:002010-06-29T16:49:39.535-07:00"there was an entirely different person on th..."there was an entirely different person on the scene named Curly Jim. She knew Curly Cook as well, and even sent me a picture of Curly Jim, standing on the steps of 710 Ashbury, but she doesn't remember his last name. Make of this what you will."<br /><br />Gene Anthony,<i>The Summer of Love: Haight-Ashbury At Its Highest</i> (Millbrae, CA: Celestial Arts, 1980), p. 101, has a photo of Danny Rifkin and Curly Jim. Photo seems to be credited to Gene Anthony.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-34502274382898919732010-05-04T13:08:07.826-07:002010-05-04T13:08:07.826-07:00Just stumbled upon your site... amazing resource. ...Just stumbled upon your site... amazing resource. Thanks!<br /><br />http://becomingdead.wordpress.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704518543997680375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-52493280464301289442010-05-01T07:07:02.928-07:002010-05-01T07:07:02.928-07:00I integrated all these great comments into the pos...I integrated all these great comments into the post. I had no idea about Criteria Studios--that explains a lot--and I couldn't put my finger on the March 24 show, as I kept thinking it was an Eric Burdon show.<br /><br />My general idea for these itineraries is that I am very interested in canceled shows, as they tell a lot about the band's plans, even though they never actually occurred. Conversely, I am generally ignoring dates that only "exist" because of taper transcription errors or other hiccups in the historical record.<br /><br />I recognize that for tracking the lineage of tapes, its important to keep the "stated" dates of tapes in mind, but I am focused on the actual shows rather than the history of recordings, a subject handled very well on Deadlists and elsewhere.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-9646180595484339842010-04-30T03:22:45.338-07:002010-04-30T03:22:45.338-07:00A couple of thoughts on the notes:
March 1-2, 196...A couple of thoughts on the notes:<br /><br />March 1-2, 1968 - 1300 Boulevard Way, Walnut Creek – I agree that this is mysterious but it has been known for a quite a long time. I always thought that it may be rehearsals, as the private party concept is weakened by a second day. I have hunted around to no avail for any further details.<br /><br />March 8-9, 1968 – Melodyland, Anaheim, CA – I must admit that these shows were not known to me until I read your post. There is an LA Blog (with incomplete show listings) that does have some details on Melodyland: http://gogonotes.blogspot.com/2010/03/melodyland.html<br /><br />March 26, 1968 – I have nothing listed for this date for the Grateful Dead and certainly nothing for the Carousel Ballroom – which was typically well advertised. I have checked the press for that week and nothing appears. <br /><br />April 3, 1968 - Winterland, San Francisco, CA – Just out of interest: the Berkeley Barb (March 24 to April 4, 1968) reports “Although there are no set conformations, invitations to play have gone out to the Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Big Brother and The Holding Company, The Doors, Judy Collins, Eric Burdon and The Animals and the Quicksilver Messenger Service.The Yellow Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17001772238662274893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-84544681597410788442010-04-30T03:02:10.458-07:002010-04-30T03:02:10.458-07:00Another point about the Dead's stay in Miami -...Another point about the Dead's stay in Miami - <br />McNally's book mentions that the Dead worked on the Anthem album at Miami's Criteria Studios (but didn't accomplish much). As usual, he doesn't specify dates. <br /><br />Aside from demonstrating how the band hopped from one studio to another in their quest for Anthem, perhaps this indicates that their long stay in Miami was planned. They may have gotten that second weekend of shows at Thee Image because they were going to be in town anyway....Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-68242900697724950812010-04-30T00:54:02.465-07:002010-04-30T00:54:02.465-07:00Oops - scratch that Grand Rapids show. After a mom...Oops - scratch that Grand Rapids show. After a moment's research, I realize it wasn't played. <br />As one person comments on dead.net, though the Dead were scheduled to play at Fountain Street Church, "unfortunately the show was cancelled due to a fierce snowstorm. They played in Detroit just before this and it was deemed unsafe to drive the 150 miles to Grand Rapids in this weather, so no show." <br /><br />However, this makes me wonder if you should also mention cancelled shows in your tour itineraries, for completeness' sake? <br /><br />I've also seen that Tom Constanten noted the 3-11-68 show in his tour chronology, and that you've already written a post speculating about his prior show with the Dead in Las Vegas, Sept '67.... Reminds me to do my homework before I write these comments!Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-59446466920115026092010-04-30T00:28:46.941-07:002010-04-30T00:28:46.941-07:00And one more thing -
Browsing through the Dead po...And one more thing - <br />Browsing through the Dead posters on this site - <br />http://www.sixtiesposters.com/deadpage1.htm - <br />I see a couple that are relevant to this post. Might be worth linking to, if they're real. <br /> <br />There's a poster noting the Dead's FIRST weekend at Thee Image: <br />http://www.sixtiesposters.com/images/dead_miami.jpg <br />And there's a poster for a hitherto unsuspected show on Sunday, March 24, in Grand Rapids, MI: <br />http://www.sixtiesposters.com/images/aor3.151.jpg <br />Don't know if it's real, but the date & place fit in perfectly. <br /><br />(And, though it's not in this time period, I also noticed the poster for the 11-15-68 Corvallis show, which you covered in another post...)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-31649532012666420342010-04-29T23:44:29.335-07:002010-04-29T23:44:29.335-07:00Virginia...hmm...
This is skipping ahead to May,...Virginia...hmm... <br /><br />This is skipping ahead to May, but they did play a show on May 12 at Virginia Beach, after finishing their week in NYC. This struck me as quite a random place to play - I wonder how many people there would have been familiar with this SF band with one year-old record? (Deadlists shows the flyer: "Direct from San Francisco...")<br /><br />There's a review on setlists.net, for what it's worth: <br />"The "Dome" (Alan B. Shepard Civic Center) was pretty cool looking on the outside, but an acoustical nightmare within. I suspect the Dead were less than impressed and I remember leaving that night thinking that my garage band sounded better than these guys. Interesting note: The tickets for this date had been printed for a group called "Soul Survivors". Apparently, they were unable to appear and the GD got booked as a substitution. I still have that ticket stub, as well as a promo flyer announcing the GD concert. Price was $4.50!" <br /><br />In any event, I've also seen a comment from a guy who was in the band who opened for the Dead, Wild Kingdom (he was their lead guitarist, Mike Johnstone) - interestingly, he remembers the show being at Peabody's Warehouse in Virginia Beach.<br />"I was once deemed "too high to jam with the Dead" by Jerry Garcia himself back one summer night in 1968 when, as a self-absorbed 21 year old lead guitarist in the opening band, I was invited to join them onstage. After an acid-inspired atonal improvisation, Jerry asked me to unplug and sit down. I was seriously bummed."Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-29676139219120198032010-04-29T21:00:14.045-07:002010-04-29T21:00:14.045-07:00I hadn't considered the implications of the se...I hadn't considered the implications of the second week in Florida, with respect to the idea that there might have been a canceled show. One thing about Miami, as near as I can tell, is that there wouldn't have been nearly as many potential places to even schedule a show, compared to Portland or Philly. Where did the Dead even think they were going to play on April 19-21? And was there anywhere in Florida safe for a stealth gig (and I don't mean metaphorically)?<br /><br />Of course, it would explain how broke they were in Philadelphia. The band had an April 12-14 show in Miami, and then another scheduled weekend that was canceled, so they stayed in Miami. I would have to look farther North--Virginia, DC, somewhere like that. hmm...Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-75044220120643365392010-04-29T20:39:49.982-07:002010-04-29T20:39:49.982-07:00A few comments -
3-1-68 - Deadbase, puzzlingly, ...A few comments - <br /><br />3-1-68 - Deadbase, puzzlingly, lists the address of the venue (1300 Boulevard Way), which is an actual Walnut Creek address (now a Sufism center, apparently). Mysterious indeed.<br /><br />3-11-68 - Deadbase notes that Tom Constanten played with the Dead at this show. (It would have been his first that I've heard of.) Don't know what their source was - but it's not as implausible as it might seem at first, as TC was using his leaves from the air force to join the Dead for recording in the studio around this time.<br /><br />3-26-68 - Dead.net strangely lists two shows for this date, one for the Carousel & one at Melodyland. Bizarre & improbable. (Though I can think of one date where they apparently played two cities in one day, 5-3-69.) Deadlists prefers the "unknown venue".<br />Even more interesting, there's also a review for their Melodyland entry ( http://www.dead.net/show/march-26-1968 ) - fishy & worthless as evidence, I know - from someone claiming he saw the Dead & Airplane here. I think he would have seen one of the March 8/9 shows, and there was no 3-26 show. (Was the Airplane playing anywhere this date?) <br />The plot thickens with an audience tape labeled with this date... Personally I suspect it goes with the series of poorly-labeled Carousel audience tapes from the end of the month. <br /><br />4-19-68 - The "held over" notice on the poster raises many questions of its own. Looks like the Dead went over well. <br />Presumably, when the Dead were booked for the April 12-14 shows, they didn't plan to still be in Miami the next weekend; and presumably, they also didn't have any other plans that couldn't be canceled! With no other shows we know of until Philadelphia on the 26th, I wonder if they flew home during the week, or just roamed around Florida? Considering their cash-strapped state once they got to Philadelphia, I'm not sure what the logistics would've been. There could be other 'lost' shows somewhere in the distant East during this second half of April.<br /><br />And a very minor correction - the April 19-21 shows are listed in deadlists. (But the April 14 "Love-In", of course isn't.)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-1995619948062440422010-04-29T14:25:42.257-07:002010-04-29T14:25:42.257-07:00Bruno, I saw the listing in Deadbase, and I find i...Bruno, I saw the listing in Deadbase, and I find it completely unconvincing. Some kid found his Mom's diary, and she saw the Dead at Melodyland, and somehow Tuesday March 26 is a valid date, when the Dead played three shows there two weeks earlier? I don't buy it without other evidence.<br /><br />Anything's possible, of course, but this has the look of something that has been on the list for a long time without really having any support.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-56776692215626435952010-04-29T14:14:30.139-07:002010-04-29T14:14:30.139-07:00One missed gig: March 26, 1968 Melodyland Theater,...One missed gig: March 26, 1968 Melodyland Theater, Anaheim, CA with Jefferson AirplaneBruno Ceriottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11902562334118804557noreply@blogger.com