tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post1472984294437983288..comments2024-03-25T06:33:12.809-07:00Comments on Lost Live Dead: Grateful Dead Tour Itinerary February 1970Corry342http://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-10980611370927472692021-12-13T21:16:29.800-08:002021-12-13T21:16:29.800-08:00Were you at the show?
Oddly enough, ZZ Top is als...Were you at the show? <br />Oddly enough, ZZ Top is also said to have opened for the Quicksilver/Dead show at Panther Hall in Ft. Worth on Feb 20, 1970. <br />For instance here: <br />https://www.bahrgallery.com/band-items/grateful-dead-panther-hall-1970 <br />There's one memory of them on a ZZ Top tour site: <br />https://mrrandom.com/tourzz.htm <br />And apparently there's even a known setlist: <br />https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/zz-top/1970/panther-hall-fort-worth-tx-5bd89f70.html Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-56100977356028180852021-12-13T14:35:31.802-08:002021-12-13T14:35:31.802-08:00Feb 21 1970 - San Antonio. There was one act not m...Feb 21 1970 - San Antonio. There was one act not mentioned in the write up that took place before the main groups took the stage and the 'set' consisted of just four songs by a new band called ZZ Top.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00629847733677355054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-73047133726708438392020-07-01T06:50:34.906-07:002020-07-01T06:50:34.906-07:00The Owsley Foundation have just released selection...The Owsley Foundation have just released selections from the Commander's opening sets for the Dead at the Family Dog Feb 27 to Mar 1 with hi-res digital downloads of six complete shows to follow.<br /><br />https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/bears-sonic-journals/found-in-the-ozone-commander-cory-his-lost-planet-airmen/runonguinnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11089424718490613109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-42935313845181735442019-08-06T13:01:59.527-07:002019-08-06T13:01:59.527-07:00I came across that original poster at the top of t...I came across that original poster at the top of the article, and now it is in my collection! Grateful.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911276690986631179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-22688589384749044132019-02-27T21:54:38.904-08:002019-02-27T21:54:38.904-08:00One 2/21/70 recollection also uses that name for t...One 2/21/70 recollection also uses that name for the venue:<br />"I saw the Dead play [Dark Star], along with The Eleven and St. Stephen, at the Hemisphere Auditorium in San Antonio back in February, 1970. I had never really listened to any of their music before that night but it was truly a life changing experience for me. I left that show with a newfound understanding of what music can and should be, and it was during Dark Star that I had that epiphany." <br />"The last song was Turn On Your Lovelight featuring Pig Pen at the height of his powers. The house lights came on as soon as he sang “Lovelight,” a very impressive ending to a great Dead set. Other songs included Dark Star, St. Stephen, The Other One, the Eleven, etc. It was a classic electric acid rock Dead experience... Although the Dead...were already playing acoustic material at other shows in early 1970, they included none of that material at this show... It was such a life changing experience that I still remember this as one of the most meaningful concerts I have ever attended."<br /><br />The HemisFair Arena was built in 1968 for the San Antonio World's Fair. It's odd that the show poster calls it the Convention Center Arena (the actual Convention Center was in a separate building nearby, I believe), but I guess San Antonians knew where to find it. Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-11840893837497468752015-12-31T12:27:56.678-08:002015-12-31T12:27:56.678-08:00I stumbled onto an ad for the 2/21/70, which bills...I stumbled onto an ad for the 2/21/70, which bills the room as Hemisfair Arena, which was another name the building went by, I guess.<br /><br />! ad: San Antonio Express and News, February 1, 1970, p. 26.<br />Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-14726531648443806812015-10-30T07:24:16.398-07:002015-10-30T07:24:16.398-07:00Gerard, thank you very much for the great photos a...Gerard, thank you very much for the great photos and description of the San Antonio show. I included them in the post. I had always wondered why there was a QMS tape and no Dead tape.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-30213093825426862362015-10-29T19:04:20.766-07:002015-10-29T19:04:20.766-07:00I was at the February 21,1970 show in San Antonio....I was at the February 21,1970 show in San Antonio. I have some pictures of The Dead and Quicksilver that I can e-mail if someone provides a contact address. I am gerardpdaily@yahoo.comGerard Paul Dailyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15574712145610533795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-34705376345283857312013-04-11T02:22:59.689-07:002013-04-11T02:22:59.689-07:00Argh... Now that 2/2/70 is being released, lots of...Argh... Now that 2/2/70 is being released, lots of people will be repeating the Bob Heil story as if it's true. <br />There was no "missing equipment" issue in St Louis. Bear was not detained in New Orleans, he was at the 2/2/70 show with the band's equipment. The newspaper review specifies that they used the Fox Theater's PA system. <br />Heil may have been involved, but it's more likely he encountered the band in spring '71, as mentioned in the comments above.<br /><br />It is cool to find out they were rehearsing at the Family Dog on Feb 3, though - even more fascinating to see it was taped! Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-32253943099480516522013-04-10T19:07:07.485-07:002013-04-10T19:07:07.485-07:00This is pretty interesting. We do know that Alembi...This is pretty interesting. We do know that Alembic was doing the sound for the "Night Of The Family Dog" show, so maybe the Dead dropped by with their guitars to "test it out." I can't imagine their sound system made it back from New Orleans that quickly, although I guess anything was possible.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-64144555631193568702013-04-10T08:30:41.145-07:002013-04-10T08:30:41.145-07:00Lemieux's new promo video on dead.net for Dave...Lemieux's new promo video on dead.net for Dave's Picks 6 contains a couple of interesting asides.<br /><br />Firstly, they had a rehearsal for the "Night At The Family Dog" TV broadcast on the preceding night, 1970-02-03. <br /><br />So they had to get back from St. Louis pretty smartish then, which makes the missing equipment issue all the more intriguing. Was it recovered from New Orleans in time? How did it get back to SF anyway? Was it trusted to a courier/freight company or did some of the crew stay down south or return south to transport it back. I can't see that they would have any spare manpower at that time.<br /><br />There's an Ed Perlstein photo of the Vault for this period in "Gray Areas" Vol 2 No 2 p 120 (published in 1993). It is in too low a resolution to read the tape spine labels but the caption dates two reels as 1970-02-03 but gives no location or act. One mystery solved, Family Dog rehearsal!<br /><br />Secondly Dave dates a Workingman's session as 16, 17, 18 and 19 February. Despite covering pretty much everything else for Jan and Feb 1970 he mentions no other Workingman's sessions so this looks to be the start.<br /><br />I won't comment on what he says about the upcoming St. Louis Picks 6 except to say that he says the booklet will include more press reprints than were in Vault 2. And I'm getting impatient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-86859730840985137592012-05-29T03:55:06.063-07:002012-05-29T03:55:06.063-07:00Pardon, I didn't see this earlier.
That link ...Pardon, I didn't see this earlier. <br />That link seems to be down, alas! <br />But it's on the dead.net clippings archive: <br />http://www.dead.net/sites/deadbeta.rhino.com/files/images/19700203_0442.preview.jpgLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-55972774284864308032012-04-22T06:33:48.826-07:002012-04-22T06:33:48.826-07:00Do you have an image or pdf or something of this r...Do you have an image or pdf or something of this review? For whatever reason, I seem unable to access it with the URL you supplied. TIA.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-70867025118776511112012-04-21T21:35:50.677-07:002012-04-21T21:35:50.677-07:00One of the local St. Louis newspapers (St. Louis G...One of the local St. Louis newspapers (St. Louis Globe-Democrat) published a HUGE picture of the Dead on stage at the Fox. It was published on Thursday, February 5, 1970. <br /><br />It was a really good show. Kind of subdued and dreamy. And it wasn't a long set at all. Good moments, but a bit of a disappointment.<br /><br />Owsley WAS in town for that show. A buddy of mine picked him up at the airport.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08539080411624789874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-50283687747589173992012-03-02T01:10:20.301-08:002012-03-02T01:10:20.301-08:00I definitely have some questions about Heil's ...I definitely have some questions about Heil's memory.<br /> <br />The story he tells of Owsley's arrest is simply not true. We know Owsley was in St Louis: the newspaper reviewer saw him there, and he taped the show. (Heil's timeline is a little off, for it was only after the NYC shows that Bear was forbidden to leave California.) <br /><br />It's also vague just what tour the Dead took his sound system on. The Dead went straight home after the 2/2/70 show. The article above mentions heading off to New Jersey, which didn't follow St Louis in any tour of the time. (Heil isn't mentioned in any Dead source that I've seen. Also, other people could note this better than I, but are there any photos of the Dead using Heil equipment?)<br /><br />Heil also says that a front-page Billboard article said that he'd gotten the Grateful Dead contract. Unfortunately, I can't find any mention of Heil in a google search of Billboards until April 1972 - in fact, none of the articles about him in '72-74 mention any connection with the Dead. (For what that's worth - I don't know how complete those online searches are. Ironically, a big story about him in November 1974 is on the same page as an article on the Dead's Wall of Sound - even more ironically, Heil, when mentioning new guitar amplifiers, very briefly refers to Alembic (misquoted as "Olympic, a subsidiary of Grateful Dead.")<br /><br />My theory is that Heil encountered the Dead at the Fox Theater not in 1970, but during the March 1971 shows, which would explain why he didn't encounter Owsley. The Dead played a few shows around the midwest in March 71, and may have bought some of his equipment for the end of the tour. <br />McNally writes, "Using local sound systems had caused many unacceptable sound problems the previous fall [1970], so in early 1971 the band purchased the Alembic PA." The first tour with the new PA was in April 71; so the March 71 tour may still have been using "local sound systems."<br /><br />Also notice - the photos used in that Performing Musician article of the "Feb 2 1970" show (presumably provided by Heil) are NOT from that show! They're from spring 1971 - you can tell by Garcia's guitar and the tie-dye amps, the same amps seen in other photos of the time. (If you look at the photo in the 2/2/70 newspaper review, the stage setup is quite different, along with Garcia's guitar & clothes.)<br /><br />Heil refers to doing the Who's Next tour sometime after that, which was in summer/fall 1971. (The Who may have heard about him since he did the sound for the Mississippi River Festival in 1971.)<br /><br />In the youtube video he also mentions how Garcia liked to hang out at his little store in Marissa, IL; and the Heil Sound myspace page says, "Heil Sound officially started when Bob Heil was coached by Jerry Garcia on the proper way to name a business." (Though actually, Heil Sound seems to have been founded in the 60s.) <br />I wonder if he was boosting a very slight connection? His contact with the Dead may have been much more minimal than he remembers.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-87914608374073941522012-03-02T01:08:35.536-08:002012-03-02T01:08:35.536-08:00There's a fuller interview with Bob Heil about...There's a fuller interview with Bob Heil about the St Louis show here: <br />http://www.namm.org/library/oral-history/bob-heil<br /><br />As well as a very detailed technical article discussing that night: <br />http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/dec08/articles/bobheil.htm?print=yes#top <br /><br />Here's a transcription of the interview: <br />"One night I get a call from old George Bales, the stage manager at the Fox. He says, 'Hey, Heil, you still got those big speakers?' And I said, 'Yeah, why?' He says, 'We got a band here that came in and they don't have a PA. Can you bring 'em up here?' Cause he didn't know that I'd built this [giant sound system]. That band was the Grateful Dead, and if you know their history, that was the weird time when they played New Orleans; and their soundman Owsley Stanley was on probation, he wasn't supposed to be out of the state of California. The drug agents followed him that night after the concert, confiscated him and the gear, brought him back to California. The band didn't know it, they had already left for St Louis. When they got there, no PA... They had never played through anything like [my system]. Garcia went nuts; he said 'You're going on tour with us, right out of here.' I said, 'No, you don't understand, I can't do that.' The thing that really saved me was that my roadies knew every lick of Grateful Dead music, they were Grateful Dead fanatics. So that really helped, cause they could mix good. The union that night was incredible."<br /><br />And a third source: <br />http://community.musiciansfriend.com/docs/DOC-1796 <br />"The Grateful Dead came through town around 1971, and they didn't have a PA. Theirs was confiscated the night before by the feds because they weren't supposed to go out of California. Anyway, they show up at the Fox Theater. The Fox calls me and hands the phone to Jerry Garcia. He says, "You got a PA, man?" I said, "Yeah, I've got A4s, a whole bunch of McIntoshes."<br />So I took it up there and we changed the world that one night. They freaked out. They took me right out on tour—right out of the theater that night off to New Jersey. Then it hit the front page of Billboard magazine that we had got the Grateful Dead contract, and the next thing you know, The Who is calling me, ZZ Top, Humble Pie, on and on..."<br /><br />(continued next comment...)Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-50084066260185660152011-11-29T21:23:37.754-08:002011-11-29T21:23:37.754-08:00They definitely would have used the house system f...They definitely would have used the house system for Ungano's. I doubt their rig would even fit in the door. Of course, the question is whether they actually played there.<br /><br />My current theory on Ungano's, played out in the endless comment thread, is that the Dead did not play on February 12, 1970, but they did play there on an earlier date, possibly Sept 24, 1969. That would account for the conflicting memories. It's just a theory, however, with no proof yet.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-34233684334119523872011-11-29T20:16:28.278-08:002011-11-29T20:16:28.278-08:00What about the Ugano's show? Would they have ...What about the Ugano's show? Would they have used the house gear for that show?Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10402878044125279752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-27250478140633826592011-11-29T09:03:38.682-08:002011-11-29T09:03:38.682-08:00The Dead apparently used the Fillmore East PA at t...The Dead apparently used the Fillmore East PA at the Fillmore East. Graham used to brag about the fact that FE was the only place where the Dead used the house system. It certainly explained why the Dead could fly into New York, do a Fillmore East show and take off, because they didn't need to truck in their system. So I doubt the St. Louis guy's system was used in February.<br /><br />However, if he had a good system that the band liked, he may have been involved in Buffalo and Port Chester in March, or possibly even the May tour. I realize that doesn't fit his exact timeline, but my general take is that when dealing with 40 year old memories, people remember events clearly but not the timeline.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-3254523573141905212011-11-29T08:52:36.611-08:002011-11-29T08:52:36.611-08:00He says in the interview he headed off with the eq...He says in the interview he headed off with the equipment to New Jersey for the rest of the tour. Do you think it was his gear that got played at the Fillmore East gigs a few weeks later?Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10402878044125279752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-83569157248875809462011-11-28T15:44:47.317-08:002011-11-28T15:44:47.317-08:00Liberty, this is an extremely interesting little t...Liberty, this is an extremely interesting little tidbit. It certainly explained why the Dead were late setting up.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-8368676010339110312011-11-27T18:39:27.165-08:002011-11-27T18:39:27.165-08:00Here is an interesting tidbit from that timeframe....Here is an interesting tidbit from that timeframe...<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zJTgovLDM&feature=related<br /><br />Looks like the Dead's PA equipment got confiscated in New Orleans so they had to use a local guy's gear in St. Louis. That local guys name is Bob Heil and he is now in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10402878044125279752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-22621752440512547892010-11-09T10:03:41.713-08:002010-11-09T10:03:41.713-08:00I think that post-recording tasks took the same am...I think that post-recording tasks took the same amount of time for an album regardless of how long the basic tracks took to produce. Mixing, overdubbing harmonies, fixing mistakes and so on generally don't involve an entire band. <br /><br />When bands in days of yore talk about "how long it took to record an album" they generally mean how long the whole band was in the studio producing the basic tracks. I think after 10 days or so (the second 10 days, anyway), the Dead had a tape that sounded like what we would recognize today as Workingman's Dead, if a bit rough around the edges.<br /><br />Certain famous classic rock albums like Who's Next and Led Zeppelin (I) supposedly took less than a week to record. In simple terms, I think that means Keith Moon and John Bonham were in the studio for a week. Pete Townshend and Jimmy Page spent a lot more time in the studio making the albums work, but the basic record had been made.<br /><br />Other albums, like Sgt Pepper's or Ummagumma had lengthy, complex recording histories with sessions going on for months, so that's very different than Workingman's Dead or Who's Next.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-27105679276810972202010-11-09T06:56:33.258-08:002010-11-09T06:56:33.258-08:00"the Dead were touring relentlessly"
I ..."the Dead were touring relentlessly"<br /><br />I don't disagree, in general, but note the following:<br /><br />5 nights off between 2/14 and 2/20<br />5 nights off betwee 3/1 and 3/7<br />8 nights off (GD!) between 3/8 and 3/17<br />9 nights off between 3/24 and 4/3<br />5 nights off (incl. Sat.) between 4/3 and 4/8<br /><br />I haven't gone and checked the whole year, but I do see a long GD respite between the Calebration show (8/30) and the start of the Fillmore East run on 9/17.<br /><br />It might make sense to assume that all of these GD touring hiatuses had to do something with getting records together ... if not recording, then post-production and all the rest.<br /><br />I find that nine-night opening before Cincinatti on 4/3 particularly interesting. If it's true that they were still working on the album, it puts a little different gloss on the "recorded in 10 days" history of Workingman's.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5493557313410969282.post-20213994385017907992010-11-08T17:47:11.385-08:002010-11-08T17:47:11.385-08:00A useful find in terms of dating Workingman's....A useful find in terms of dating Workingman's. Remember, when Hart says the album is "finished," he's talking like a drummer. His part was over. Notwithstanding mixing, overdubbing vocals, and whatever other tasks may be required, the Dead were touring relentlessly.<br /><br />I also think record companies timed releases. So the record may have been finished by the Dead in April, but Warners may have been planning a promotional campaign, manufacturing the discs, printing the covers, shipping them to stores, and so on. I assume that a company wanted a certain number of releases each month, so the release dates of certain albums were sped up or slowed down based on how full the pipeline might have been.<br /><br />Also, the Dead weren't big sellers (prior to Workingman's), so Warners wouldn't have prioritized its release. Its very possible that the Dead's role in the album was effectively done by April 30, and it still took 60 days to hit the stores.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.com