One night in Winterland in 1977--sorry, even I don't recall when--I was talking to some guy about the Jerry Garcia Band. I mentioned how much I liked seeing Garcia with Nicky Hopkins, even though at times Hopkins seemed a bit out of it. He told me about seeing Garcia and Hopkins in San Diego at a theater in San Diego which he called "Paloma Blanca." He said that after a few numbers, Hopkins just collapsed, seeming to burst into tears. Garcia went over and talked to Nicky, and then after a while Jerry came to the microphone and told everyone that the show was canceled and they could get their money back.
Over the years, as Grateful Dead and Jerry Garcia scholarship has improved, little pieces of the puzzle started to fall into place. The Jerry Site lists Jerry Garcia Band shows on December 27-28, 1975 at La Paloma Theater in Encinitas (at 471 1st Street), a few miles North of San Diego. La Paloma Theater in Encinitas is close enough to "Paloma Blanca" that I reasonably assumed it was the event in question, but I have waited in vain for any more information.
I do notice that there were no tapes, set lists or reviews for either night in 1975 at La Paloma, however. Maybe my acquaintance' story was true, and there are no set lists or tapes because the shows weren't played, beyond a few numbers the first night. Garcia only played one more show with Hopkins, on New Year's Eve, and perhaps Hopkins's breakdown was the last straw. Garcia epitomizes the sort of player who will go on stage with a myriad of personal, financial or health problems and still focus on his playing, so as a musician Jerry can't have been willing to keep working with someone who couldn't get through a show.
The Garcia Band returned to La Paloma Theater in Encinitas just two months later, on February 21 and 22, 1976. The band played double shows (early and late) on two nights, and tapes confirm that the shows did indeed happen. La Paloma Theater had not been part of any regular rotation of Garcia shows. Could the return engagement in February with Keith and Donna Godchaux have been a makeup show for the abortive December shows with Hopkins? It's possible.
This exhausts my knowledge of the December 27-28, 1975 Jerry Garcia Band shows with Nicky Hopkins at the La Paloma Theater in Encinitas--a casual conversation on the floor at Winterland, some time in 1977. But I have lots of other memories, too, like a guy who told me in December 1977 that the Dead had played an unforgettable show in Binghampton the month before, and he turned out to be right, even if it took me many years to finally hear the tape, so I'm not dismissing it yet. I would be delighted to find out that Garcia and Hopkins played a few shows between Winterland (Dec 19-20, 1975) and Keystone Berkeley (Dec 31, 1975), but I need to hear from some Southern Californians whether the La Paloma Theater shows happened or not.
- Did the Jerry Garcia Band interrupt themselves and cancel a show because Nicky Hopkins couldn't play?
- How many shows were canceled? If the first show on the first night was canceled, as many as four shows could have been canceled?
5/19/94 in Phoenix, second set was canceled due to Garcia having the flu. That's the only example that comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteGreat question about the La Paloma shows in '75. I am going to try to put this in front of a few people who might know. Also, was the San Diego "underground" paper door still publishing in late '75? If so, it might shed some light. It's in the underground newspaper microfilm collection.
here is a bit of info on the show:
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10-24-2006, 10:41 AM
Well I've got one I forgot about. It wasn't really a band argument, but I got into an argument with Jerry Garcia once. He was on the way down, playing a gig at the La Paloma Theater in 1975. He told me he didn't want to sing with the the SM58 I had set up for him. He told me that the SM58 had tons of distortion and was unsuitable for his voice. He wanted me to give him an EV mic. The problem was that I had no EV mics there. I tried to assure him that nobody at this gig was going to complain about vocal distortion with that mic. Who knows, perhaps he did a shoot out and determined that the EV worked better for his voice. :rolleyes:
He threw a fit and said he'd not play the gig unless we got him the EV's. The promoter finally reasoned with him and he recanted. It's not like this was a live album or Carnegie Hall. It was a small gig with a few hundred people. He was all upset and acted like a little baby. The show was fine, but he was pouting the whole night.
Of course I had no idea that he'd make a comeback and the Dead would get back together. He was with the Jerry Garcia Band at this time. Also the La Paloma was famous for booking acts that were on the way down after being in the big time and the feeling at the time was that this gig was no exception.
I've never been a real Dead Head, but any good feelings I had towards them or him were ended that day.
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/archive/index.php/t-94692-p-3.html
maybe nicky was crying because jerry's vocals were so distorted
Someone who might know about this show is my friend George McNulty ,he &lived nearby &I'll ask him.He 's now in Adamstown,Pa.Zrichard Moss May also know ,,he is in Virginia,now,,he was born &raised there.
ReplyDeleteRasputin, that would be great if you could quiz someone from the area. Another mystery has arisen, too: it seems that the month before this (November 22, 1975), Ned Lagin and Phil Lesh played a "Seastones" show at La Paloma. There apparently was even a tape, although it doesn't circulate. If your sources have any memories about the Seastones show, that would be very interesting too.
ReplyDeleteI was at the seastones concert...I still have the hand bill and Ticket stub ...It was pure lsd25!
DeleteI was also present for 2 Kingfish shows and 2 Garcia band shows around the same time , One of the Garcia shows was with Nicky Hopkins, there was no breakdown although Nicky seemed out of it . I think they played 2 nights /2 shows I only went to one of the late shows, the other was with Kieth And Donna ...I again 2 night s / 2 shows I saw only one night ,late show. Oh yah I was a high school kid of 17 from near by Carlsbad CA. I have a great Photo of Jerry from The February Show I took,He is wearing his "Mars" t and playing his white Travis Bean
I was at the seastones concert...I still have the hand bill and Ticket stub ...It was pure lsd25!
DeleteI was also present for 2 Kingfish shows and 2 Garcia band shows around the same time , One of the Garcia shows was with Nicky Hopkins, there was no breakdown although Nicky seemed out of it . I think they played 2 nights /2 shows I only went to one of the late shows, the other was with Kieth And Donna ...I again 2 night s / 2 shows I saw only one night ,late show. Oh yah I was a high school kid of 17 from near by Carlsbad CA. I have a great Photo of Jerry from The February Show I took,He is wearing his "Mars" t and playing his white Travis Bean
I'm writing something on the Nov. 2, '75 Lagin/Lesh concert and I'd love it if you could answer some questions about your experience being there. Please write me: incornsyucopia (a) gmail . com. Many thanks!
DeleteHello Stfilberto - Can you shoot me an email please. I'd like to find out about your Jerry picture from the 2/76 show. sdconcertarchive@aol.com or visit my site www.sandiegoconcertarchive.com Thank you. Jon
DeleteI was at late show on DEC of 1977 . JERRY kept turning up his guitar and Nicky's keyboard could not match. But the show let out just before the train came down the track.
DeleteIt was 1975, not 1977.
DeleteI saw Nicky Hopkins and the Jerry Garcia Band at the La Paloma. I'm not sure of the date. Nicky was high and frail and I spend a lot of time talking to him, but he played the entire set and it was a good show.
ReplyDeleteIt would be great if you had a ticket stub or anything else that might help pin down which show you saw? They were scheduled for two shows, 8 p.m. and 11 p.m., each night.
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DeleteI actually attended one of the Dec. shows at the La Paloma Theater—not sure of the specific date though. It featured the four-piece lineup, and Nicky did indeed play the whole set, along with JGB members John Kahn on bass, Ron Tutt (previously with Elvis Presley's band) on drums, and Jerry. I grew up in San Diego and used to go to the La Paloma fairly regularly (don't remember hearing about the Lesh gig though). It was a great show and I have a clear memory of it (I was 18 at the time). I used to have a show poster, but lost it long ago, sadly. If Nicky did indeed have a breakdown, and Jerry called the gig, it must have been the following Dec. date. But as I recall, Nicky played the entire set and sounded great. I have only come across one other person who was there, just recently in fact. Guess it was a little piece of history, since Nicky and Jerry only played a handful of gigs together. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share, and trip down memory lane.
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I meant to say that Jerry and Nicky only played a handful of gigs together after this.
DeleteI worked at (and later managed) La Paloma. Part of my job was to spend the night on the stage between the two gig days and protect the equipment. I remember playing through Jerry's Mesa Boogie amp to pass the time. He did seem in a pissy mood, though, and I was therefore unimpressed. I also remember Nicky Hopkins being very sweet, but frail and out of it. He had me print my BACKSTAGE stamp on his forehead. It was kind of funny, but in a sad way.
DeleteVery interesting, thanks!
ReplyDeleteI was at both the 1975 La Paloma shows with Nicky Hopkins. Both were performed in full. At the second show, Hopkins was incredibly drunk (at least I think that was the drug of choice). The setlist included one song of Hopkins'. It was called "Birmingham" and was about the British city. Hopkins took forever trying to introduce this song. He was so out of it that people were looking at each other wondering if some on-the-spot intervention was in order. Then he finally started playing the song and it was slow and kind of painful, with Nicky swaying back and forth dangerously on the piano bench, and at last, falling over. Roadies ran out to help him and he got back up and finished the song. And the show. I think it was the only full tour Nicky ever did with Jerry.
ReplyDeleteWow, thanks for sharing that. "Birmingham" was written by Randy Newman.
ReplyDeleteI saw one of the dec shows and i remember as soon as we left the theater a train came down the tracks. I think they did a train song at the end.
ReplyDeleteI remember the late show in December when we came out and saw the train coming down the track.
DeleteSo that was likely "Mystery Train". Good stuff!
DeleteI was at one of the December shows, as well. Somehow my girlfriend and I ended up with the band in their dressing room. One of them (not Garcia) had cut a "star" out of cardboard and taped it to their dressing room door. They all thought the venue was somewhat beneath them. One of the guys kept hassling my friend and being mean to her (because of our age). Jerry had a glass vial of cocaine the size of a 35mm film canister and was quiet and somewhat sullen and withdrawn the entire time.
ReplyDeleteI was there for one of the JGB shows with Hopkins and the Lagin-Lesh Seastones show at the La Paloma, and Kingfish, Freddie King, the Sons, Elvin Bishop, The GD Movie, etc. There was no cancellation due to Hopkins, but he was fried and pretty worthless. Because the La Paloma had relaxed seating (almost lying down), I must admit I fell asleep (and not because I was tired) during Seastones. It was more boring and mindless than Howard Wales/Jerry, Lol!
ReplyDeleteSo, seems like we have plenty of eyewitness accounts to answer the titular question - yes!
ReplyDeleteFor the four shows, the band got a $4,000 guarantee plus 50% of gross over $8,300. I list capacity as 540, don't see ticket prices.
Here we have several independent eyewitness accounts suggesting that Garcia was in "a mood". I know he was leaving Mountain Girl right in this timeframe. Or maybe his cornflakes were stale.
It's rare to see so many memories of Jerry being in such a pissy mood at a particular show. Of course, if one of his players was dead drunk and keeling over onstage, that might have upset him a little! Nicky Hopkins was in the JGB for just three more days.
DeleteThere was also a positive review in the La Jolla Light of one of the Saturday (12/27) shows.
ReplyDeleteSince I am here, I might as well add setlist detail from whichever Saturday show was reviewed (order uncertain):
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Mystery Train
How Sweet It Is
Mississippi Moon
Mother Nature's Son (!)
It's Too Late
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
Let's Spend The Night Together (presumed closer)
hey, 44 years ago- i was definitely at a garcia band show at la paloma, def nicky-h was on piano, i absolutely remember the first song of the show i saw was 'let it rock' freakin-amazing...
ReplyDeleteI was at the two shows in December... both were great, but it was obvious that the band had partied late after the first night, especially Nicky. He was a sweaty, disheveled mess, for sure, but played... when it came time for his song(s)/solo on the second night, he played Jingle Bells, chopsticks-style, with his two index fingers! The crowd loved it, as he was obviously struggling, but doing his best to hang in there! and I seem remember the band looking at each other and smirking knowingly. I think they followed this with Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder, Nicky's signature song from his days with Jeff Beck, which he had played the night before as I recall...
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